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re: Vanderbilt pays $1.2M to remove 'Confederate' from dorm name
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:42 am to TigerFanNKaty
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:42 am to TigerFanNKaty
you clearly havent been to a lot of black communities lately?
waiting for a check?
this still happens?
waiting for a check?
this still happens?
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:50 am to LSUMastermind
No I haven't lately but neither have those politicians that claim to care so much.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:52 am to TigerFanNKaty
brooklyn, dc, even new orleans, i know a lot of black people with black businesses that are thriving. Even here in florida, my fraternity brother owns one of the biggest construction companies around.
it never makes the news.
just the cycle of violence in these communities.
it never makes the news.
just the cycle of violence in these communities.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 9:53 am
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:55 am to GnashRebel
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Basically everybody and everything of historic importance took a dump on somebody or a group of somebodies.
Which is why nothing is sacred in 2016.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:19 am to Tdot_RiverDawg
The folks who rail against "political correctness" on this topic need a reality check. Typically, losers of wars don't get monuments. The losers are typically killed and their ideology gets scrubbed from society.
Andrew Johnson's lenient reconstruction plan would probably be criticized as "politically correct", pandering to the Southerners, too soft on the treasonous rebels. The fact that the South was allowed any kind of autonomy was a goddamn gift.
If you want to criticize the scrubbing of monuments as "politically correct", pandering to the easily-offended, you need to also criticize the merciful reconstruction that created the political climate that allowed those monuments to exist in the first place.
Andrew Johnson's lenient reconstruction plan would probably be criticized as "politically correct", pandering to the Southerners, too soft on the treasonous rebels. The fact that the South was allowed any kind of autonomy was a goddamn gift.
If you want to criticize the scrubbing of monuments as "politically correct", pandering to the easily-offended, you need to also criticize the merciful reconstruction that created the political climate that allowed those monuments to exist in the first place.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:00 am to Tdot_RiverDawg
I'm thinking University of Arkansas simply doesn't have any of the deep south stuff connected to the university campus. I can't think of any symbols or buildings named for the confederacy or controversial figures.
We have a building named after the first black student enrolled. We enrolled blacks in the 1940s.
University of Arkansas was always relatively progressive in that area I guess.
We have a building named after the first black student enrolled. We enrolled blacks in the 1940s.
University of Arkansas was always relatively progressive in that area I guess.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:07 am to LSUMastermind
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you have a point, but you certainly dont want to be constantly reminded of the horrors im sure.
I don't mind the reminders. It is where we came from. I am a huge history buff and I understand that not everyone is. To me, you would do more to donate that money to a cause for the advancement of black people than to pay it for the right to scrape words of the front of an almost 100 year old building. Everyone wants to hide from the past and I don't like it. When Muslims in Afghanistan destroyed the old Buddhist statues the world went in a panic. Those statues truly offended the Afghans. But I wish they had left them up anyway.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:01 pm to GnashRebel
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GnashRebel
Your subsequent comments have been reasonable. I was expecting the same old tired defense of the confederacy that is so often repeated, and then told we should "read our history". But I have no problem honoring the dead soldiers who were fighting for their homes and communities...as long as the memorial is not honoring the confederate government which was specifically fighting to defend the institution of slavery (per the "Articles of Secession" which publicly documented their cause).
But I definitely agree with you that the soldiers are not the villains, any more than the Vietnam vets were "baby killers". They should all be honored (with the exceptions of those committing war crimes, genocide, etc.)
Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:24 pm to Crimson Legend
It strikes a nerve with me. Maybe it causes me to go full a-hole. I don't want people to come in 100 years from now and start tearing down monuments to my brothers in arms because they look at the wars we fought as barbaric.
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