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re: UT is going to win the East
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:55 pm to TRUERockyTop
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:55 pm to TRUERockyTop
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As of right now, Pinkel is the best coach in the East IMO. Nobody does more with less than that staff.
consistency is one thing, not outcoaching your major deficiency is another..
he has zero CC's in 15 years and is 0-4 in attempts, of course the same people that sneer and laugh at "participation prizes" for their team will tell us that somehow it's just a great achievement for Mizzou to even be there.
We could have gotten more out of guys like DGB and who knows what difference that makes. Thing is we all saw the SEC CC 2 years ago and realized we had no plan at all to stop Auburn, there has been room for improvement at MU, it's just very slow coming.
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winning big with lunch pale and hard hat type guys
"winning big"?
we are 1-2 vs UGA, and somehow I still feel like that game could easily decide the East.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:58 pm to JesusQuintana
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I guess we'll see this year if it was Pinkel or Steckel that was the grease that made Mizzou go...
New DC Odom will get your attention soon.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:01 pm to Mizzou Mule
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New DC Odom will get your attention soon.
Even Grantham could figure out how to slow Auburn down, Stec was clueless.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:25 pm to Jagd Tiger
I'd say you guys have been winning big over the last 2 years in regards to seasonal expectations placed on to you by national pundits. Having a winning record against every team outside of UGA isn't easy. Even in a bad East. And Making it to the SECCG twice in 3 seasons is respectable even with the outcomes.
Athletically, MU looked out matched against AU and Bama in the CC games. If the caliber of athlete has more parity between MU and the Alabamas, Auburns, and LSU's, I think that Pinkel would have a chance to bring home some hardware. Your staff schemes, red shirts, and develops players as good as anyone in the country. 90% of the time that works great. It's tough to beat the loaded Alabamas and Auburns of the CFB world with a noticeable disadvantage in the caliber of athlete and depth of them on each sideline. Pinkel does a fantastic job given the circumstances IMO.
Athletically, MU looked out matched against AU and Bama in the CC games. If the caliber of athlete has more parity between MU and the Alabamas, Auburns, and LSU's, I think that Pinkel would have a chance to bring home some hardware. Your staff schemes, red shirts, and develops players as good as anyone in the country. 90% of the time that works great. It's tough to beat the loaded Alabamas and Auburns of the CFB world with a noticeable disadvantage in the caliber of athlete and depth of them on each sideline. Pinkel does a fantastic job given the circumstances IMO.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:42 pm to TRUERockyTop
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Your staff schemes,
no, we really don't, hate him all you want, but Petrino is a far better offensive scheming mind than anyone MU has had in Pinkels tenure. Pinkel and Yost where out of their league at it and Henson has been somewhat better than adequate.
Consistency is what Pinkel does, it's not magic and it's not a mystery and it doesn't beat superior opponents, nor is it 100% as we saw against IU last year. That and a superior D-line/pass rush is about it, I know you'ed like to believe that it took a monumental effort to beat your Vols the past 2 years, but it really didn't.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:45 pm to Jagd Tiger
Uh oh. Yall have started Jagd up on Pinkel now. Buckle up.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:46 pm to Jagd Tiger
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I know you'ed like to believe that it took a monumental effort to beat your Vols the past 2 years, but it really didn't.
Hopefully, that will start being more difficult from this point forward.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:48 pm to Jagd Tiger
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Consistency is what Pinkel does, it's not magic and it's not a mystery and it doesn't beat superior opponents, nor is it 100% as we saw against IU last year.
There is a word for something that is consistent, except for those times when it isn't consistent. I'm blanking on it though.
eta: I'm fricking with you. he's pretty consistent.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:53 pm to CrimsonChin
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Vol fans won't act like they've been there before
what motherfrickers on this board have ever acted like they have been there before when they are winning
Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:56 pm to JCdawg
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-Mizzou will be a contender as long as Pinkel is around, by far the best coach in the EAST.
All the down votes are butt hurt UGA fans. Those 4 dumbasses probably think you are an alter too.
But I agree with you in that Richt isn't the best coach in the East.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:01 pm to DawgGONIT
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All the down votes are butt hurt UGA fans. Those 4 dumbasses probably think you are an alter too.
But I agree with you in that Richt isn't the best coach in the East.
I guess I should have clarified. I think Pinkel has been the best coach in the east as of late. Spurrier is historically the most successful, with Richt a distant second.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:04 pm to DawgGONIT
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But I agree with you in that Richt isn't the best coach in the East.
best coach in east = tallest pygmy
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:15 pm to IT_Dawg
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DawgGONIT, is that you? You talking to yourself (Phan)?
So UGA hasn't underperformed? You seem to think we either have over performed or did an adequate job. No way we over performed, as we haven't won the SEC in almost a decade. Or do you think that Richt has just done enough to keep fans happy, which is go 9-3, but never win anything of importance like the SEC.
Having 3 first rounders on the same team and not winning the SEC East, is not underperforming? M Stafford (#1 pick), Moreno (#14 pick), and AJ Green (#4 pick). Or was it the defense's fault, Martinez/Grantham, who was hired by Richt?
We constantly have a top 5-7 recruiting class, but we can hardly finish as one of the top teams in the SEC, or even win it (2005).
But hey, if you are a UGA and you question the program or Richt, then you are automatically an alter. Every douche bag UGA fan that cries 'alter' b/c another UGA fan criticizes Richt is getting old very quick. No wonder why the other fan bases never take us serious. We are always proclaiming a NC before the season, only to lose a game or two b/c of Richt's coaching, then predict another NC the next season. How about we just win the SEC again? We need to reestablish our self within the Big6.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:25 pm to DawgGONIT
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Having 3 first rounders on the same team and not winning the SEC East, is not underperforming? M Stafford (#1 pick), Moreno (#14 pick), and AJ Green (#4 pick). Or was it the defense's fault, Martinez/Grantham, who was hired by Richt?
Bingo
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:27 pm to JCdawg
quote:Spurrier is the best during his prime, but as of late the decline has been very real for him, yet we haven't beaten them like we should of.
I guess I should have clarified. I think Pinkel has been the best coach in the east as of late. Spurrier is historically the most successful, with Richt a distant second.
For the talent he has, Pinkel has done very well. I would hate to see him finish with a couple of top 5 recruiting classes.
I also don't see how some UGA fans dont' see how Richt has under performed. Most people in the SEC outside of UGA will agree that Richt has underperformed, but when a UGA fan says it then they must be an alter or not a real fan.
I'll say this, some of these guys thinks that Richt is UGA. I've only dissed on Richt but never on UGA. UGA is where my allegiance is at, not with any of its coaches. I'll support all UGA players/coaches/students but that doesn't mean I can't criticize them, especially a coach (its never good to rag on players, they are just kids).
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:38 pm to DawgGONIT
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For the talent he has, Pinkel has done very well. I would hate to see him finish with a couple of top 5 recruiting classes.
A natty if he could coral the prima donnas. That's not always easy.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:57 pm to JCdawg
quote:Here are some notable players from the 2008 squad:
Bingo
OFFENSE
M Stafford --- 1st pick overal
K Moreno --- 12th pick, 1st rb overall
AJ Green --- 4th pick, 1st wr overall
M Massaquoi (Sr)--- 2nd rd pick
B Jones --- 4th rd pick
C Glenn--- 2nd rd pick
C Boling --- 4th rd pick
DEFENSE
J Wynn --- 6th rd pick
C Irvin --- 3rd rd pick
J Atkins --- 4th rd, one of the games best DT and a 4th rd pick
A Dent --- 3rd rd pick
R Curran --- 3rd rd pick
R Jones --- 5th rd, one of the better safeties in the game
A Allen --- 3rd rd pick
*UDFA
D Ellerbe --- UDFA played in the NFL
B Walsh --- One of the better kickers
How do you have all these guys on the same team and not win the SEC East????
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:59 pm to DawgGONIT
Coming from a guy who has been very critical of cmr........Saying stupid things like "other fan bases don't take us serious" while proclaiming "many Uga fans predict national titles every year" makes one look like an alter.
As for 2008, uf was much more loaded and had the best coach in cfb. Still, no excuse for such a poor performance.
As for your recruiting and finish point, can we get a fact check on that? Seems like you are exaggerating our recruiting success while minimizing our field success.
As for 2008, uf was much more loaded and had the best coach in cfb. Still, no excuse for such a poor performance.
As for your recruiting and finish point, can we get a fact check on that? Seems like you are exaggerating our recruiting success while minimizing our field success.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 6/23/15 at 6:39 pm to Lonnie Utah
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I guess we'll see this year if it was Pinkel or Steckel that was the grease that made Mizzou go...
Steck did an admirable job, but I think most serious Mizzou fans don't view him as indispensable in the way they do Kul and Ivey. I felt that losing Grinch was maybe more important than losing Steck.
I'm expecting Odom to do a great job with the defense. But as the OP stated, I'm expecting a down year relative to the last two... and not just because of the Brantley news.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 6:43 pm to JCdawg
Usc will be just as worse as GA
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