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re: UT fans, let's hear your prediction for the GT game...

Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:06 am to
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:06 am to
Tn 34
Gt 20
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:37 am to
Several of the coaches on UT's staff are very familiar with the triple option.

-DB coach Charlton Warren was at Air Force Academy for 7 years and is extremely familiar with its concepts.
-Warren also coached/helped prep against Georgia Tech in 2015 and 2016 while at North Carolina. North Carolina won both games while Warren was in Chapel Hill.

-OC Larry Scott also game planned and faced the Georgia Tech offense while he was on staff at Miami from 2013-2015. They went 2-1 against Tech while he was there.

It's a unique offense, but Tennessee has had months to prepare for it and have several guys on staff who are very familiar with that system.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 8:48 am
Posted by Bratwurst83
Hog Hollow TN
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:46 am to
Yep. Plus the TO just drains the clock. I predict low scoring
UT = 24
GT = 21
Posted by SLM85VOL
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 7:43 pm to
You are right with the current experience against Georgia Tech's offense, but Tennessee Vols' history shows that time hasn’t helped preparation for option offense. Conventional wisdom says that if you have more time to prepare for an offense like the triple-option, which Tennessee football will deal with its first game, you’re better off. If that’s the case, Vols fans should feel relief.

But unless Bob Shoop is that much better than John Chavis was at Tennessee, history tells a completely different story. Interesting article from Caleb Calhoun:

The last time the Vols faced a true triple-option team, that was an excuse. It was against the Air Force Falcons in 2006, and that game was sandwiched between two Top 10 opponents. So the Vols were caught off-guard and had to hold on to win, 31-30.

However, There was a three-year period in the late 1990s and early 2000s that told a completely different story. In 1997, 1998 and 2000, Tennessee football faced a triple-option team in its bowl game. And with a month to prepare, the Vols still suffered blowout losses all three times.

Let’s start with 1997. They faced the Nebraska Cornhuskers, going for their third national championship in four years. And it was Tom Osborne’s final game.

The Vols had Peyton Manning and Jamal Lewis on the other side and a plethora of future Pro Bowlers on defense. It didn’t matter. They could not stop the running game of that option led by Scott Frost, and Ahman Green had a record-setting performance for Nebraska. It resulted in a 42-17 win for the Huskers.

Two years later, Tennessee football faced Nebraska again, this time Tee Martin’s final game. The Vols again lost, unable to defend the option again. Eric Crouch had a touchdown pass in that game and two different players had touchdown runs.

Again, a plethora of future Pro Bowlers left after that season to go to the NFL. But they couldn’t stop Frank Solich’s offense or Crouch this time.

Then came the next year. The Vols finished the year on a roll with freshman quarterback Casey Clausen, winning their final six games. They were two plays away from being 10-1 but settled for 8-3.

And closing out the season in the Cotton Bowl, they faced the Kansas State Wildcats. Once again, they could not stop the triple-option. Bill Snyder’s offense torched the Vols, and they lost 35-21.

Now, what do all three of these games have in common? The Vols had way better talent overall all three times, which you can see just by the NFL numbers. And they also had time to prepare for the offense.

They had a month off every time. And every time, it didn’t matter.

Despite a month off to prepare and more talent, they could not figure out the triple-option of what were at the time Big 12 North schools.

Now, you’re hearing all this talk about how an offseason should be very beneficial for Shoop and Butch Jones to prepare for Paul Johnson’s triple-option. Don’t believe the hype.

Although that was all nearly two decades ago, should we have any reason to believe things have changed?

Posted by Prof
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 7:48 pm to
Meanwhile, three head coaches ago...
Posted by ChopBlockOclock
Your Head
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:47 pm to
The coaches have only a part of it in terms of experience. They can lay it out on a whiteboard but the players who have never seen it at the college level have to execute it. Thats usually where it gets tricky. Its not the coaches experience its the players lack of experience physically playing against it that bites them.

By the way not saying this will happen. UT could be like the 2009 Iowa drfense (they arent) and stuff it up. This is the trend though.

Going to be a great game either way and I am excited to play UT.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 8:50 pm
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:03 pm to
Interesting dynamic in this thread. Every Vol fan that has posted predicts a win and most predict an easy win. For some reason tons of dawgs in here and most of them predict a Tech win. UGA plays both teams every year. Maybe they know something you Vol fans don't. Just sayin.

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