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re: UT - Fla...How does this game look to everyone?
Posted on 7/4/12 at 8:03 pm to ericberryistheman
Posted on 7/4/12 at 8:03 pm to ericberryistheman
Bottom line - UT can't beat Florida unless they
1. Run the ball, or
2. Get a lot of big plays in the passing game.
The offensive line that UT has coming back has a lot of hype again and talent on paper, and in sacks allowed are awesome, but they haven't been able to run the ball at all against anyone since Dooley has been there.
UF's run defense was at it's worst in a long while last year, and all signs point to it being better in 2012. Combine that with all the experience coming back in the secondary, and I just don't see UT scoring a lot of points.
It was 30-13 in the 4th quarter last year, because Florida owned the LOS, and gave up passing yards but never the big score.
The strategy will be similar in 2012 and unless the UT defense can step up and keep Florida under 20, then this game probably won't be very close. UT's front 7 isn't scaring anyone next year, and UF has it's best offensive line since 2009. That combination should give UF a significant advantage in the running game, which should keep the pressure off of their young QB's.
UF is just a tough match up for UT right now.
1. Run the ball, or
2. Get a lot of big plays in the passing game.
The offensive line that UT has coming back has a lot of hype again and talent on paper, and in sacks allowed are awesome, but they haven't been able to run the ball at all against anyone since Dooley has been there.
UF's run defense was at it's worst in a long while last year, and all signs point to it being better in 2012. Combine that with all the experience coming back in the secondary, and I just don't see UT scoring a lot of points.
It was 30-13 in the 4th quarter last year, because Florida owned the LOS, and gave up passing yards but never the big score.
The strategy will be similar in 2012 and unless the UT defense can step up and keep Florida under 20, then this game probably won't be very close. UT's front 7 isn't scaring anyone next year, and UF has it's best offensive line since 2009. That combination should give UF a significant advantage in the running game, which should keep the pressure off of their young QB's.
UF is just a tough match up for UT right now.
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Posted on 7/4/12 at 8:04 pm to reel_gator8
Saban was 7-6 at Alabama his first year. I'm not worried yet.
Posted on 7/4/12 at 8:25 pm to slayerxing
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It was 30-13 in the 4th quarter last year, because Florida owned the LOS, and gave up passing yards but never the big score.
The strategy will be similar in 2012
Tennessee really had no one with the ability to make a big play last year. Da'Rick is an elite underneath guy who's good for a big play once every weak or so, but eliminating the big play will be much tougher with Hunter who is a big play machine.
Posted on 7/4/12 at 8:30 pm to volfan30
Hunter is gonna be on Roberson island.
Posted on 7/4/12 at 8:30 pm to ericberryistheman
UT has better backfield and way better playmakers.
UF has advantage on the trenches.
if UF allows several big passing plays they'll lose.
UF has advantage on the trenches.
if UF allows several big passing plays they'll lose.
Posted on 7/4/12 at 8:36 pm to gatordmb89
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Roberson island.
Who?
Posted on 7/4/12 at 8:36 pm to volfan30
UF had like 8 PI penalties last year keeping WR's in front of them.
They'll do the same thing to Hunter in 12.
The other thing to consider, is that even if the WR corp at Tennessee is better, UF's DB's are certainly better, because last year they only had one returning starter, and this year, they return 6 players that have started.
UF's secondary will be one of the better units in the country in 2012.
They'll do the same thing to Hunter in 12.
The other thing to consider, is that even if the WR corp at Tennessee is better, UF's DB's are certainly better, because last year they only had one returning starter, and this year, they return 6 players that have started.
UF's secondary will be one of the better units in the country in 2012.
Posted on 7/4/12 at 8:48 pm to gatordmb89
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Hunter is gonna be on Roberson island.
No way you guys will not be in cover 2 or cover 3.
Posted on 7/4/12 at 8:50 pm to volfan30
Prevent defense for the whole 60 minutes, IMO.
Posted on 7/4/12 at 8:54 pm to volfan30
It was a joke.
Posted on 7/4/12 at 9:29 pm to gatordmb89
Marcus Roberson, and keep up you guys. He is stealing lunch money from wrs this year....true frosh last year. Secondary is loaded...a lot of experienced jrs/sophs who started games as true frosh.
Again...UT can only beat UF if they outgain us on the ground...its really that simple. When Spurrier HC at UF in the early to late 1990s the Fun n Gun offense was NOT pass heavy if you break down the stats...we ran the ball 52-56% of the off plays...Spurrier didnt throw the ball sixty times...he knew better than that. He did get leads and then ran the sprint draws and sweeps etc etc to keep the run game wearing down foes in 4th qt.
You dont have to believe me...go look up boxscores for every game UT & UF have played....then get back with me.
Again...UT can only beat UF if they outgain us on the ground...its really that simple. When Spurrier HC at UF in the early to late 1990s the Fun n Gun offense was NOT pass heavy if you break down the stats...we ran the ball 52-56% of the off plays...Spurrier didnt throw the ball sixty times...he knew better than that. He did get leads and then ran the sprint draws and sweeps etc etc to keep the run game wearing down foes in 4th qt.
You dont have to believe me...go look up boxscores for every game UT & UF have played....then get back with me.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 12:28 am to reel_gator8
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Again...UT can only beat UF if they outgain us on the ground...
Uh no... the UF offense might win Tennessee the game.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 6:53 am to boXerrumble
Ok....here the FACTS to back up my statements:
stats since 2003 UF vs UT
2003 UT 24 UF 10 (UT outrushed us 139-79yds)
2004 UT 30 UF 28 (UT outrushed us 171-135 yds)
2005 UF 16 UT 7 (UF outrushed UT 68-66 yds)
2006 UF 21 UT 20 (UF outrushed UT 121-minus 11yds)
2007 UF 59 UT 20 (UF outrushed UT 255-37 yds)**
2008 UF 30 UT 6 (UF outrushed UT 147-96 yds)
2009 UF 23 UT 13 (UF outrushed UT 208-117 yds)
2010 UF 31 UT 17 (UF outrushed UT 150-29 yds)
same ole thing in 2011
See a trend? Might wanna talk about UTs ability to run the ball instead of Bray & wrs...just saying. The team that has the most rushing yds will win and UT hasnt beaten us since they last outrushed us on the ground.
** btw one of our TDs that game was scored by a backup qb....I think he went to JC afterwards, I dont know what ever happened to him...Cam Newton I think was his name? Seemed like a nice fella.
stats since 2003 UF vs UT
2003 UT 24 UF 10 (UT outrushed us 139-79yds)
2004 UT 30 UF 28 (UT outrushed us 171-135 yds)
2005 UF 16 UT 7 (UF outrushed UT 68-66 yds)
2006 UF 21 UT 20 (UF outrushed UT 121-minus 11yds)
2007 UF 59 UT 20 (UF outrushed UT 255-37 yds)**
2008 UF 30 UT 6 (UF outrushed UT 147-96 yds)
2009 UF 23 UT 13 (UF outrushed UT 208-117 yds)
2010 UF 31 UT 17 (UF outrushed UT 150-29 yds)
same ole thing in 2011
See a trend? Might wanna talk about UTs ability to run the ball instead of Bray & wrs...just saying. The team that has the most rushing yds will win and UT hasnt beaten us since they last outrushed us on the ground.
** btw one of our TDs that game was scored by a backup qb....I think he went to JC afterwards, I dont know what ever happened to him...Cam Newton I think was his name? Seemed like a nice fella.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 7:24 am to reel_gator8
you're thinking of Fulmer days when UT ran power football with stacked roster. passing was sort of optional back then. running the ball was a must.
roster looks vastly different now and our oc runs different kind of offense.
Cincinatti, Montana all outrushed UT and controlled the time of possession but they got air raided.
2010 Ole Miss had 2x rushing yards(200 yards) than UT. but they got air raided 52-14.
I think UT had negative rushing yards in the first half against 2010 UK. they outrushed us and controlled the time of possession, but they got air raided as well.
UT wins the game if we outsocre by making big plays. UF has inexperienced QB, no playmaker on WR, and no RB. they won't score big points. only way they win is if they shut down UT's passing game and not allowing big plays.
roster looks vastly different now and our oc runs different kind of offense.
Cincinatti, Montana all outrushed UT and controlled the time of possession but they got air raided.
2010 Ole Miss had 2x rushing yards(200 yards) than UT. but they got air raided 52-14.
I think UT had negative rushing yards in the first half against 2010 UK. they outrushed us and controlled the time of possession, but they got air raided as well.
UT wins the game if we outsocre by making big plays. UF has inexperienced QB, no playmaker on WR, and no RB. they won't score big points. only way they win is if they shut down UT's passing game and not allowing big plays.
This post was edited on 7/5/12 at 7:26 am
Posted on 7/5/12 at 7:33 am to Crompdaddy8
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UT wins the game if we outsocre by making big plays.
And that's why UF will once again have 7-10 PI penalties. Because when it's either give up 15 yards or give up a TD, you give up the 15 yards everytime.
UT will have the same problems scoring because they won't be able to move the ball on the ground. Coupled with the fact that UF now has an experienced secondary (last year it was one of the most inexperienced secondaries in the whole country) and that spells trouble for UT.
The only thing UT has going for them is that UF's offense might be truly terrible. If that's the case and the offense is even worse than last year's (which was really bad and still put 33 on UT) then UT has a chance to win an ugly game.
Personally, I think the offense is going to be better just for the simple fact that John Brantley is gone. But it's still too early to tell.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 7:42 am to slayerxing
I think UT is being overlooked by a lot of people heading into the season. The running game and switch to the 3-4 are question marks, but Bray, Hunter, Rodgers, and Patterson are going to put up some big time points. The schedule also sets up well for them. If the defense plays up to its potential and the team avoids the injury bug, UT is a dark horse contender for the East title.
Florida's defense is obviously great and Pease is a great addition, but I am still not sold on their QB situation. I could see another 7 win season for the Gators.
Given that the game is in Knoxville, I would give the edge to Vols.
Florida's defense is obviously great and Pease is a great addition, but I am still not sold on their QB situation. I could see another 7 win season for the Gators.
Given that the game is in Knoxville, I would give the edge to Vols.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 7:54 am to Porter Wagoner
Vanderbilt gave Florida a tougher game than Tennessee last year. In the swamp.
It's just not a good match up for Tennessee.
Unless they can find a way to acheive some balance and run the ball a bit.
Also, I think Dooley might be the worst coach in the conference.
It's just not a good match up for Tennessee.
Unless they can find a way to acheive some balance and run the ball a bit.
Also, I think Dooley might be the worst coach in the conference.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 8:35 am to reel_gator8
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UF has two very talented young qbs
Simple Jeff is a WR playing QB. Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:01 am to slayerxing
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Vanderbilt gave Florida a tougher game than Tennessee last year. In the swamp.
Everyone keeps mentioning how easily Florida won last year...
Does anyone remember our best player going down on the third play from scrimmage?
Prior to that, we had a 10 yd run up the middle. And Hunter ran a stop route for another first down. When Hunter goes down, the whole team (coaches included) fell apart. At that point, Rogers was talented but was in no way our go to star receiver. And that also forced us to rely on Arnett (fr) and zach rodgers as the #2 and #3 wr's. Hunter going down was a complete game changer.
This year I think this is a close match-up, but I think UT has just a few more advantages/weapons. Run game might be the key factor, but i really think this one comes down to turnovers. If Bray doesn't turn the ball over this one might get ugly in the favor of the Vols. Too much big play potential!
My early prediction:
Florida 17
Tennessee 34
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:06 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Simple Jeff is a WR playing QB.
Jeff has never played WR and was the nation's top QB recruit two years ago.
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