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Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:06 pm to meansonny
Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:06 pm to meansonny
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How good is Lorenzo Ward?
2012 LSU and Tennessee made his defense look silly. Michigan scored 28.
Georgia made them look bad last season, but that was week 2. Wisconsin ran over them in the bowl game. Inexperience can't be used as an excuse in that game.
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:39 pm to Cumulonimbus
The Tennessee game was the result of shitty special teams play forcing our D to play with their backs to the wall practically the entire game.
Wisconsin would have run the ball well against anybody last year, but especially after having had a month to prepare and heal-up. They had a very physical running game. They were Top Five in the nation if I remember correctly, and their line was enormous and their RBs very very good. I mean very good. One of those kids, if not both, are prime NFL material.
Wisconsin would have run the ball well against anybody last year, but especially after having had a month to prepare and heal-up. They had a very physical running game. They were Top Five in the nation if I remember correctly, and their line was enormous and their RBs very very good. I mean very good. One of those kids, if not both, are prime NFL material.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:43 pm to scrooster
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The Tennessee game was the result of shitty special teams play forcing our D to play with their backs to the wall practically the entire game.
Wisconsin would have run the ball well against anybody last year, but especially after having had a month to prepare and heal-up. They had a very physical running game. They were Top Five in the nation if I remember correctly, and their line was enormous and their RBs very very good. I mean very good. One of those kids, if not both, are prime NFL material.
That reads like the excuses from Dawg fans regarding Willie Martinez his first 3 seasons.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:56 pm to meansonny
You sure do like to bring this up
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:23 pm to Cockopotamus
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You sure do like to bring this up
Yup. Threads kind of go silent afterwards. Not a lot left to say, really.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:43 pm to Cumulonimbus
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Perhaps. In South Carolina's most recent game, they gave up 293 rushing yards at 6.8 yards per rush to Wisconsin. That defense has lost several starters. Until the replacements prove themselves, I'd be concerned about your rushing defense since this is a league that's known for strong rushing attacks.
Wisconsin averaged 283 ypg rushing in 2013, and 6.6 ypc, so it wasn't anything unusual.
What was unusual: Wisconsin scored 35 rushing TDs in 2013, 2nd in the B10 to only OSU, and 15th nationally. The B10 had 5 teams (not counting Wisc., who was 5th) in the top 37 in rushing defenses, and 7 in the top 50. Know how many rushing TDs they scored against our weak rushing defense? That's right...not a one....
Know how important that makes all those 293 rushing yds and 6.8 ypc stats you mentioned? That's right.....
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:51 pm to meansonny
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That reads like the excuses from Dawg fans regarding Willie Martinez his first 3 season
Except Ward has screwed the pooch on one, maybe two, in his first three years.
Know the difference and don't play word games or let's admit what you're doing here and move on.
And Conway us right. When I quoted "top five" I may have been thinking Wisconsin defense. I dunno, I'm getting older and senile(r) than I used to be so frick'et. Whatever. They were top five at something and they had a punishing running game IMHO. Two really good backs. Maybe someone else remembers those two backs.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:51 pm to meansonny
quote:Why are using just Johnson's last year? These stats are meaningless. The games weren't played in a vacuum.
How good is Lorenzo Ward?
Versus the SEC
2011 (Ellis Johnson): 16.9 ppg allowed and 268 ypg
2012 (Ward): 21.1 ppg allowed and 302 ypg
2013 (Ward): 22.3 ppg allowed 346 ypg
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:10 pm to CockRocket
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Why are using just Johnson's last year? These stats are meaningless. The games weren't played in a vacuum.
He's using EJ's last year because it suits his purpose ... makes him feel better about UGA's chances this year I guess?
He's trying to convince us of the outcome he intended when he started this thread. It has not turned out as he hoped I suppose.
EJ sucked donkey balls against good passing teams. If anything, he was made to look very good by Whammy and Lawing most of the time..
Truth of the matter is we probably miss Lawing far more than the egomaniac EJ, although I think Deke is going to be fine.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:17 pm to scrooster
1) it's not my thread. i'm sure we all look alike on the internet, though.
2) it serves a purpose. otherwise, I wouldn't have brought it up. can you man up and admit what that purpose is? or are you chicken?
2) it serves a purpose. otherwise, I wouldn't have brought it up. can you man up and admit what that purpose is? or are you chicken?
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:19 pm to meansonny
quote:Wat. You're dumb as shite if you think those stats mean anything.
2) it serves a purpose. otherwise, I wouldn't have brought it up. can you man up and admit what that purpose is? or are you chicken?
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:25 pm to meansonny
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or are you chicken
If he is, then dammit free CIYE
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:25 pm to CockRocket
Lol
Typical cocks.
Typical cocks.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:27 pm to meansonny
You haven't explained it's purpose other than "it serves a purpose". If you can't explain why, then what purpose do they serve?
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:27 pm to meansonny
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2) it serves a purpose. otherwise, I wouldn't have brought it up. can you man up and admit what that purpose is? or are you chicken?
lulz
.... this thread just became a waste of time.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:29 pm to CNB
Cnb,
You're smarter than that.
If I have to spell out 2011 to 2012 to 2013 for your defense in conference play... ha. Use that college degree.
You're smarter than that.
If I have to spell out 2011 to 2012 to 2013 for your defense in conference play... ha. Use that college degree.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:31 pm to meansonny
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Yup. Threads kind of go silent afterwards. Not a lot left to say, really.
No, people explain that the 2012 team lost 2 first round selections and Antonio Allen and the 2013 team had 0 experience on the 2 deep at LB, was replacing the leader in Swearenger and lost one of the best position coaches in the nation.
But then your ignorant arse says that its making excuses and continue to compare him to an UGA DC.
eta- why don't you dig up Johnson's numbers from his first two years and compare them to Ward's first two years? That would be more accurate
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:38 pm to Cockopotamus
If you have a point and want to bring up numbers... the floor is yours.
But does that imply that they took over in the exact same situation as one another? Did one start off with a better defense, better talent, and better recruiting than the other? And what has that DC done with that talent? Improve against the conference?
I'm still waiting for a cock fan to admit what is in front of everyone's faces regarding conference play for 2011 to 2012 to 2013. The clock has been ticking.
But does that imply that they took over in the exact same situation as one another? Did one start off with a better defense, better talent, and better recruiting than the other? And what has that DC done with that talent? Improve against the conference?
I'm still waiting for a cock fan to admit what is in front of everyone's faces regarding conference play for 2011 to 2012 to 2013. The clock has been ticking.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:48 pm to meansonny
quote:Your stats are Hiroshima and I'm Little Boy. There is SOOO much wrong with what you're trying to post and then you come off as if WE'RE dumb.
If I have to spell out 2011 to 2012 to 2013 for your defense in conference play... ha. Use that college degree.
Why are you only using the numbers from 2011 to validate your argument that Johnson>Ward? Let's take a look at his entire tenure at USC to get a clearer picture.
'08- 23.3 ppg (7th in conference)
'09- 24.4 ppg (7th)
'10- 26.1 ppg (7th)
'11- 16.9 ppg (3rd)
WARD TAKES OVER
'12- 21.1 ppg (7th)
'13- 22.3 ppg (3rd)
Other than 2011 (the year you so conveniently choose), Ward has done better than Johnson every year in regards to ppg.
SECOND: Again, these games aren't played in a vacuum. How is it meaningful to compare numbers for two different years when different games were played?
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:51 pm to meansonny
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I'm still waiting for a cock fan to admit what is in front of everyone's faces regarding conference play for 2011 to 2012 to 2013. The clock has been ticking.
What do you want us to admit? That the defenses haven't been as good? The 2011 team was 3rd only to LSU and Bama that year. The ceiling was set incredibly high.
Nobody is going to say that Ward is a worse coach than Johnson. I don't think many will have a problem saying that the 2012 and 2013 defenses weren't as good as 2011, but I doubt many would blame that on Ward.
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