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USC: Who do you lose for next year? What can we expect for the first game?

Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:39 pm
We will be losing:

Evans WR (Starter)
Manziel QB (Starter)
Malena RB (starter)
Labhart WR (starter)
Walker WR (starter)
Hicks TE (contributor)
Matthews OL (starter)

Jacobs DB (contributor)
Jenkins OLB (starter)
Askew OLB (contributor)
Hurd DB (contributor)
Stansbury DE (starter)
Ennis DT (did not play most of 2013 due to injury)


QB will be a definite question mark, but we have a 5* talent coming in in Hill (RS-FR), and another in Allen(FR). WR will continue to be very strong, with Kennedy and Clear coming back, and Ricky Seals-Jones healthy. RB will probably be better. Offensive line loses a major anchor in Matthews and will be a question mark. Defense can only get better, and with only 3 starters leaving, should be stronger.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 3:50 pm
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Walker WR (contributor)

Walker started every game this year
quote:

Klinke OL (starter)

wasn't even on the team this year
quote:

Askew OLB (starter)

that's somewhat questionable. We probably started half the games without a SAM at all and Sanders, Mastrogiavanni and Baggs also started at least one game at SAM. The position was a complete clusterfrick from the first play this year (which was like a 30-yard pass bc the SAM didn't even cover the FB out of the backfield).

We're also probably going to lose at least 1 more OLman to the NFL.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:49 pm to
Corrected.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79980 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:53 pm to
Shep Klinke lost his starting spot in 2011 to Ced Ogbuehi and never regained it.
Posted by CHSgc
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2012
1658 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:54 pm to
Early departure:

WR Bruce Ellington (NFL)
DT Kelcy Quarles (NFL)
DE Jadaveon Clowney (NFL)
CB Victor Hampton (NFL)
CB Ahmad Christian (transfer - was not full fledged starter)

Senior starters:

QB Connor Shaw
CB Jimmy Legree
OG Ronald Patrick
DE Chaz Sutton

We will have a new offensive identity and be really thin in the secondary. DL is a mystery, but there's talent there.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Carolina Pride
Greenville, SC
Member since Jul 2013
21 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:56 pm to
Losing:

Shaw QB (Starter)
Patrick OL (Starter)
Ellington WR (Starter)

Clowney DL (Starter)
Quarles DL (Starter)
Sutton DL (Starter)
Hampton CB (Starter)
Legree CB (Starter)

We will greatly miss Shaw but we hope Thompson can step in without too much dropoff. Ellington is a loss in leadership and talent but we have a lot of WR talent in the wings.

Defensive losses will be the biggest impact, losing 3 starters on the line and top 2 corners. Lots of talent waiting to prove themselves on the line, lots of ?? at corner.
Posted by CHSgc
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2012
1658 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:56 pm to
Has potential to be best OL, best RB stable and best WR corp we've ever had. Will not be your traditional USC team (stout D, so-so O). We should score in bunches and give it up in bunches, too.

We need a new punter badly.

EDIT: I take back the WR comment, that was before Ellington declared today. We still will have a great deal of talent there, though.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Shingo
Louisiana, USA
Member since Sep 2010
3844 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:06 pm to
This thread has a chance to be a sporting, informative, interesting thread. Thank you so much as I'm seriously considering the trip to SC for the entire Labor Day weekend with this game as the anchor
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:25 pm to
Who is replacing the DL losses?

A LOT of our starters on defense were freshmen/sophomores this past year. Claiborne (MLB) has shown a lot of potential for stopping the run, and his absence in our bowl game was an obvious hit. He will be a soph next year.

Posted by Croozin2
Somewhere on the water
Member since Dec 2004
3188 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:51 pm to
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This thread has a chance to be a sporting, informative, interesting thread.


Give it some time, someone will screw that up.
Posted by goodshotred2
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2013
320 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:53 pm to
We've got some talent and depth at defensive tackle. Philip Dukes and Kelcy Griffin were fairly high touted recruits. Gerald Dixon Jr. started this year. Defensive end will be a problem. Mason Harris and Darius English are very quick who could be good pass rushers, but at 225 lbs, they are not every down players. I don't think that will hurt us that much against your style of offense, but we will get pounded on off tackle runs against teams like Georgia or Florida. After them we are thin and inexperienced although we have some talented guys.
Posted by khaos288
Member since Sep 2011
267 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:54 pm to
Stansbury is a junior bro
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5878 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

Who is replacing the DL losses?



We've got some JUCO d-linemen that are supposed to step in, plus some guys that we've been grooming for a few years such as Mason Harris, Darius English, and Gerald Turner. Harris has shown some promise, but he's really kinda small. DE is a big dropoff from last year, to be sure. There's talent, but not a ton of experience or size.

I think the offense will be fine, and Thompson should do well in the starter's role. No, he's not the bionic commando that Shaw is, but he's led the team in tough moments before, and the players trust him. WR returns Shaq Roland, Damiere Byrd, and Pharoh Cooper, with some inexperienced talent underneath them. I expect Roland to be one of the best WRs in the league next year. Tailbacks return Mike Davis and Brandon Wilds, plus David Williams comes in off his redshirt freshman season. Lots of talent there.

The corners are going to be very untested, and that is actually very concerning. I haven't been impressed with the recruiting at that position this season, and it's a glaring position of need. Us and UGA go after a lot of the same players in the secondary, and they've been winning those battles. Frustrating.

Linebackers and safety/spur will be the heart of the defense. They were young and thrown into the fire this season, which is why they looked so bad against UGA, but really came on at the end of the year. Skai Moore and Kaiwan Lewis are studs, and could certainly contend for all-SEC honors.

We'll probably be built a lot like UGA was this year, for better or worse. A very high-powered offense, with a very questionable defense. However, I have a good deal of trust in the defensive coaching staff, and I think if anyone can make something out of nothing, they can.

The ceiling for this team is an SEC championship appearance, but the floor is probably an 8-4 type season. The best thing that this team has going for it is that its early season tough games are at home, where USC has been unbeatable for the last two and a half seasons. If they can stretch their legs going down the heart of the schedule, they can be hard to handle headed into the Clem5on week.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5878 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 5:01 pm to
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Thank you so much as I'm seriously considering the trip to SC for the entire Labor Day weekend with this game as the anchor



You should come. USC has done a metric ton around the stadium to improve game-day atmosphere, and it's become one of the toughest places to play in the conference, if not the nation. The amenities around W-B such as the new Farmer's Market and such have really improved the look and feel of the place. It would be interesting to hear an Ag's perspective, seeing as how they don't know what the place looked like 10 years ago.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 5:13 pm to
Depends on who is starting at QB next year. If its Thompson or Mitch then the offense will look pretty different than what we've seen since 2010. If Nosovitch earns the job then it will be similar to what we've seen with Shaw starting. Nosovitch is thicker than Shaw and runs the read option well but probably not as quite as fast. He has a bunch of Pennsylvania state records for QB and is probably overlooked by most USC fans as they either expect Thompson since hes a senior to start or Mitch since he was highly rated coming out of HS

On defense were replacing a lot on the dline and at CB but the dline has some experienced backups that should earn starting stops and several highly touted JUCO and true freshmen coming in the class of 2014.

CB will be an adventure next year. Only returning 3 scholarship players and none with any real experience. Still in the running to land 3 big time CB recruits in Wesley Greene, DJ Smith and Chris Lammons in addition to 2 we already have committed, but both that are committed suffered ACL injuries this year and probably would benefit from redshirt years- especially Al Harris who wont turn 18 until hes already on campus.

Best case scenario is it turns out like our LB unit did this year with a rough start but steady improvement as the year goes on. Definitely will be some chances to put up some passing yards early on
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 5:18 pm
Posted by SirCocky
Member since Jun 2013
140 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 5:24 pm to
You should also add CB Ahmad Christian to that list, Wasn't he a starter?
Posted by CHSgc
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2012
1658 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

You should also add CB Ahmad Christian to that list, Wasn't he a starter?



He may have gotten a start. I think we settled on Legree/Hampton at CB and Elder/Williams at S w/ Golightly at Spur, though.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

You should also add CB Ahmad Christian to that list, Wasn't he a starter?



No he was the first CB off the bench though and would have been a starter next year for sure, which makes his transfer more frustrating
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5878 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

No he was the first CB off the bench though and would have been a starter next year for sure, which makes his transfer more frustrating



Dude wanted to play baseball, and Holbrook didn't have any room for him with the Yardcocks. I hate that he gave up his starting spot on the football team, but if he wanted to be on the diamond, not much we could really do there. You can't split time and expect to play baseball at USC.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 5:31 pm
Posted by CHSgc
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2012
1658 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

Who is replacing the DL losses?



DT: JT Surratt returns as DT starter. Not exceptionally athletic but experienced. Dukes and Dixon were back-ups and will be in the running, as will EE JUCO Abu Lamin. Kelsey Griffin, a talented younger player, will compete, too.

DE: This won't get hashed out anytime soon. Check back next fall. We recruit and develop exceptionally well along the DL but we're not even sure who's going to be on campus to get a look here yet. JUCO's, true freshman, position changes... it'll all factor in.
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