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re: Upgrades and Downgrades from 2014 to 2015 (Auburn)
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:22 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:22 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
You obviously don't follow Mel Kiper then, because I believe he has Dhaquille Williams listed as the number one receiver in the 2016 draft
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Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:23 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
gotcha, thanks.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:24 pm to Bamad
quote:I can agree with that.
You're right, but how quickly can Robinson pick up the offense and is Thomas ready to be the #1 back. To say its an upgrade is a stretch at the moment. It could happen, but at this time, only Thomas has experience with the offense.
quote:Auburn has a slew of receivers of will see time and have seen time. Like I said, Sammie Coates was the only the leave. Melvin Ray, Ricardo Louis, Marcus Davis, Tony Stevens and company will all be there.
I should have expanded more than just saying his #'s will drop. Before last year Duke wasn't a house-hold name, today I would argue he would go in the first 2-3 rounds of the NFL draft (god knows I wanted my Buccs to snag him in the 4th tbh). With teams knowing what he can do they will shift their defenses to focus on stopping him. Does Auburn have another WR ready to go to pick up the slack should teams dedicate a double team to Duke?
TBH, I expect Duke Williams to put up great numbers, but I think Ricardo Louis is the guy to keep your eye on.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:26 pm to TTsTowel
How has no one trolled my list yet? You guys are slacking.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:27 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:Who is expected to start here?
QB- down
I know Georgia landed Jacob Park a couple years back. I think Auburn would have landed him if we kept Scot Loeffler, but I think it ended up working out well for both parties involved (Auburn and Jacob Park). He would've had to play under Scot Loeffler if Auburn didn't fire him. That could've gotten ugly.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:28 pm to RB10
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How has no one trolled my list yet? You guys are slacking.
you want people to troll? I've actually enjoyed reading a somewhat civil thread for a change.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:30 pm to TTsTowel
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Who is expected to start here?
Man it's a total crapshoot. It'll either be Park or Ramsey. Brice probably has a slight leg up because he's actually played and got some snaps last year. He has a major arm but came from a wing T HS so the mental aspect is key. When he played last year he looked VERY shaky. He would make a nice throw or two on post patterns that were beautiful, then throw it direclty to a linebacker with nobody within 10 yards.
Park is the wildcard. He's got an arm as well, but can also run around (similar to murray his freshman year) and is supposedly further along in the mental/reads/progression aspect.
Fact is nobody really knows much about park becuase he's only run scout team.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:34 pm to WG_Dawg
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you want people to troll? I've actually enjoyed reading a somewhat civil thread for a change.
Didn't say I want the to. I'm just surprised no one has yet.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:35 pm to RB10
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RB: Same
I think this is an upgrade simply because LF is experienced. He knows what to expect and will bring it even harder this year.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:38 pm to RB10
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RB10
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RB: Same
I'll say downgrade simply b/c Miles knows how good LF is and will put in other, less productive RB's.
(shiny bait there)
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:38 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Agreed. You could tell early last year that he was still adjusting to the speed of the game. LSU's backfield should be an upgrade next season solely because he should go beat mode
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:38 pm to RB10
QB: Upgrade
RB: Upgrade
WR: Upgrade
TE: Upgrade
OL: Upgrade
DL: Upgrade
LB: Downgrade
CB: Upgrade
S: Upgrade
K: Upgrade
P: Downgrade
KR: Upgrade
PR: Same
QB: Before last season we had an immobile Worley and an inexperienced Josh Dobbs. Now we have a strong confident leader in Josh Dobbs with a lot of success under his belt. This is his team and he's ready to lead it. He is a smart kid and a hard worker so I don't doubt at all he will improve his accuracy and deep ball.
RB: Jalen Hurd is going to go through a full offseason of workouts knowing what it takes to compete in the SEC. Trade Marlin Lane for Alvin Kamara. Speed UPGRADE!
WR: Everyone is back and healthy after being banged up all year. Pearson, Pig, North, Croom, Josh Smith, Josh Malone and CO will add 5 star Preston Williams to the crew. Going to be absolutely elite and lethal.
TE: Ethan Wolf is going to be another year bigger and stronger. Branisiel will be back from injury all season. Neiko Creamer got moved to TE late season and shined in bowl practices and will impact the game after redshirting. Alex Ellis will still prove to be a steady hand.
OL: Everyone can come back from a year of playing together and use this offseason to get even better. With Blair coming off redshirt we will be able to slide some guys into their more natural positons. Richmond and Jack Jones add even more talent to the T position. OL is going to be MUCH better this year.
DL: Just going to be an absolute dominant force all season. Derek Barnett will eat SEC OLmen for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Curt Maggitt really rounded into form late last year when he finally fully recoved from his torn knee in late 2013. Adding Mckenzie, Tuttle, Phillips and the crew will just make this a joke of riches.
LB: My only real concern on the team. Losing AJ Johnson late last year really hurt us. We really have no one ready to step in at MLB and the battle will be on for freshman Darren Kirkland Jr and Dillon Bates. Glad we have Jalen Reeves Maybin as he is great, but LB is a concern for sure.
CB/S: Everyone is a year better and Todd Kelly Jr will be ready to take McNeils starting S spot next to RS Sr. Brian Randolph. Cam Sutton is ready for an All American campaign and adding #1 JUCO CB Justin Martin into the other CB competiton with Malik Foreman and Eman Moselely takes this group to another level. Need to replace Coleman at NB but Gaulden gives us more talent there.
K: Aarron Medley will get much better from long distance than he was last year as a true freshman.
P: Losing Darr and adding a true freshman punter is a significant Downgrade. Good thing Dobbs, Hurd and the crew will never need to punt!
KR: Evan Berry comes into the year as the head KR. Should be even better and will likely add Kamara or one of the elite freshman back there.
PR: Cam Sutton will do Cam Sutton things.
RB: Upgrade
WR: Upgrade
TE: Upgrade
OL: Upgrade
DL: Upgrade
LB: Downgrade
CB: Upgrade
S: Upgrade
K: Upgrade
P: Downgrade
KR: Upgrade
PR: Same
QB: Before last season we had an immobile Worley and an inexperienced Josh Dobbs. Now we have a strong confident leader in Josh Dobbs with a lot of success under his belt. This is his team and he's ready to lead it. He is a smart kid and a hard worker so I don't doubt at all he will improve his accuracy and deep ball.
RB: Jalen Hurd is going to go through a full offseason of workouts knowing what it takes to compete in the SEC. Trade Marlin Lane for Alvin Kamara. Speed UPGRADE!
WR: Everyone is back and healthy after being banged up all year. Pearson, Pig, North, Croom, Josh Smith, Josh Malone and CO will add 5 star Preston Williams to the crew. Going to be absolutely elite and lethal.
TE: Ethan Wolf is going to be another year bigger and stronger. Branisiel will be back from injury all season. Neiko Creamer got moved to TE late season and shined in bowl practices and will impact the game after redshirting. Alex Ellis will still prove to be a steady hand.
OL: Everyone can come back from a year of playing together and use this offseason to get even better. With Blair coming off redshirt we will be able to slide some guys into their more natural positons. Richmond and Jack Jones add even more talent to the T position. OL is going to be MUCH better this year.
DL: Just going to be an absolute dominant force all season. Derek Barnett will eat SEC OLmen for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Curt Maggitt really rounded into form late last year when he finally fully recoved from his torn knee in late 2013. Adding Mckenzie, Tuttle, Phillips and the crew will just make this a joke of riches.
LB: My only real concern on the team. Losing AJ Johnson late last year really hurt us. We really have no one ready to step in at MLB and the battle will be on for freshman Darren Kirkland Jr and Dillon Bates. Glad we have Jalen Reeves Maybin as he is great, but LB is a concern for sure.
CB/S: Everyone is a year better and Todd Kelly Jr will be ready to take McNeils starting S spot next to RS Sr. Brian Randolph. Cam Sutton is ready for an All American campaign and adding #1 JUCO CB Justin Martin into the other CB competiton with Malik Foreman and Eman Moselely takes this group to another level. Need to replace Coleman at NB but Gaulden gives us more talent there.
K: Aarron Medley will get much better from long distance than he was last year as a true freshman.
P: Losing Darr and adding a true freshman punter is a significant Downgrade. Good thing Dobbs, Hurd and the crew will never need to punt!
KR: Evan Berry comes into the year as the head KR. Should be even better and will likely add Kamara or one of the elite freshman back there.
PR: Cam Sutton will do Cam Sutton things.
This post was edited on 3/6/15 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:39 pm to Ericvol2096
quote:As crazy as this looks, I actually agree.
QB: Upgrade
RB: Upgrade
WR: Upgrade
TE: Upgrade
OL: Upgrade
Tennessee is an offensive line and average defense away from being in the SEC Championship Game.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:40 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I think this is an upgrade simply because LF is experienced. He knows what to expect and will bring it even harder this year.
MaGee was a very good 3DRB, as he could pick up blitzes and catch out of the backfield. That's a big concern for me right now.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:42 pm to TTsTowel
We actually had a good defense last year until we started taking some injuries late in the year.
If we can figure out the MLB position we should have a top 4 SEC Defense.
OL is an obvious concern, but I feel the pieces are there and now that they've gone through the fire together once and are adding some more elite talent, I'm hoping it clicks.
Also Dobbs made them look WAY better the last 6 games. We gave up 32 sacks in the first 7 games and only 10 in the last 6 which included Bama and Missouri's DL.
If we can figure out the MLB position we should have a top 4 SEC Defense.
OL is an obvious concern, but I feel the pieces are there and now that they've gone through the fire together once and are adding some more elite talent, I'm hoping it clicks.
Also Dobbs made them look WAY better the last 6 games. We gave up 32 sacks in the first 7 games and only 10 in the last 6 which included Bama and Missouri's DL.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:42 pm to RB10
Gotcha, yeah if you don't have any help from the RB blocking on pass plays that does present issues.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:45 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Gotcha, yeah if you don't have any help from the RB blocking on pass plays that does present issues.
Fournette was not asked to block my last year, though I have no doubt he can do it seeing as he's fricking massive. It's all down to whether or not he can make the read.
I also expect Guice to be on the field on 3rd down some. Solely as a threat in the passing game.
This post was edited on 3/6/15 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:49 pm to WG_Dawg
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As for UGA I'll go with this:
QB- down
RB- even. You simply don't replace gurley, who is our 2nd best RB of all time, but having a healthy sony and marshall makes the overall unit probably on par with '14
WR- up
TE- up
OL- even
DL- probably slightly worse, with potential for better (just lots of inexperience, not hurting for talent though)
LB- better
CB- better
S- even to slightly worse
For UGA I think the QB will be more same than downgrade. You'll get more ability but less "experience".
Agree at RB due to your retarded depth
WR- I think you'll miss Conley A LOT. Is Mitchell and back? I think this unit is a DGrade but I am not going to pretend to know a bunch about your bench.
Agree with D.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:52 pm to Ericvol2096
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For UGA I think the QB will be more same than downgrade
I just have to disagree. Mason was never going to wow anyone with his ability, but for the most part he managed our offense and didn't make bad mistakes. He had 20 TDs to only 4 ints on the year, and I believe he was consistently up there nationally in efficiency rating. I don't care how much more talented the 2 other guys are, a new starter is going to make mistakes. Even stafford was absolute dog shite all the way until November in his first year.
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WR- I think you'll miss Conley A LOT. Is Mitchell and back? I think this unit is a DGrade but I am not going to pretend to know a bunch about your bench.
We'll miss conley and bennett a ton, I'd say bennett more than conley honestly. The reason I say up is because we (should) have a healthy Malcolm Mitchell and Justin Scott Wesley is back as well. We will miss having a true slot/possession guy in Bennett, but our outside guys will be legit. Terry Godwin is a wildcard here as well, and Isaiah Mckenzie should progress in year 2.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:56 pm to WG_Dawg
Fair enough on QB...didn't realize how few INT's Mason threw.
I'd at least say same at WR.
Did JSW miss all of last year from the injury he took in the 2013 TN game? Crazy if so.
Forgot about Isiah McKenzie that little bastard is fast.
I'd at least say same at WR.
Did JSW miss all of last year from the injury he took in the 2013 TN game? Crazy if so.
Forgot about Isiah McKenzie that little bastard is fast.
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