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re: Updated SEC Basketball Standings; plus mid-week schedule

Posted on 2/20/16 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by CayceCock13
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Posted on 2/20/16 at 8:07 pm to
Heck of a Saturday, really good games between UF/SC & A&M/UK.
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 2/20/16 at 8:09 pm to
A&M and UK are locks.

UF and South Carolina should be in.

Bama and LSU are on the bubble.
Posted by tigerbait2010
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Posted on 2/20/16 at 8:10 pm to
I don't think LSU is even on the bubble right now. they'll have to let us in if we somehow still win the SEC, which is technically very possible if the team goes back to giving a frick)
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:31 am to
Bama suffered a serious blow with the upset loss to Miss. St. yesterday. Their schedule is favorable for winning 3 of their last 4 (won't beat Kentucky in Lexington). They probably need to win a couple of games in the SEC tourney.

LSU probably won't make it. The wheels have come off that program since beating A&M. I see them winning just one more game, vs. Missouri.
Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 8:27 am to
fricking Ben Howland. You son of a bitch, we had a clear path and you had to come in and frick it up
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 4:14 pm to
Bump with the updated standings and write up
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 4:15 pm to
Write-up before Saturday's games:
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Kentucky moves into sole possession of first place in the conference, thanks to their win and LSU's loss. The Wildcats clearly look like the best team in the SEC, but their last 5 games are against teams who are either in the NCAA Tournament, or on the tournament bubble; starting with what might be the game of the year in the SEC against A&M this Saturday. The Aggies have the big men to match-up well with Kentucky, so it should be an interesting game.

As tough as Kentucky's schedule is down the stretch, Texas A&M's is pretty much the opposite. After Saturday's big game against the Wildcats, the Aggies play 4 games in which they will be decent-sized favorites. If they can win Saturday, they have a very good shot to share the conference title (likely with Kentucky). If they lose, they're probably out of the conference title race.

Alabama has now won 5 in a row with a big road win over LSU Wednesday night. Although some outlets still have Alabama as a bubble team, their résumé certainly seems good enough to have the Tide safely in the tournament. As long as they win their remaining home games, they should be fine. If they trip up at home once, and lose both of their remaining road games, then they might have to do some work in the SEC Tournament. Either way, Alabama fans have to be extremely happy with the position of their team. Avery Johnson has done a wonderful job.

As big as that win was for Alabama, you could argue it was an even bigger loss for LSU. At this point in the season, whether you are fighting for the conference title or building your NCAA Tournament résumé, you need to hold serve at home. The Tigers lacked effort, shot a poor percentage, and might have placed themselves on the outside looking in of the tournament bubble. Now, LSU has two road games in tough venues, before coming home to face Florida. At worst, they need a 2-1 stretch in these games. A likely loss looming in Lexington in the season finale means the Tigers are probably looking at a 12-6 conference finish. That means they might need a couple of wins in the SEC Tournament to grab a spot in the dance.

Coming off a bad loss to Missouri, South Carolina has now lost two in a row. However, they still have a pretty manageable schedule down the stretch. The Gamecocks need a win at home against Florida Saturday to stop the bleeding, but also to get their third top-50 RPI win on their tournament résumé. As long as they don't collapse down the stretch, South Carolina is pretty safely in the NCAA Tournament.

Florida is in the same boat as South Carolina. As long as they can avoid a late season collapse, they'll be in the tournament field. The only difference is that the Gators have a much tougher finish to the season, based on the schedule. They will be an underdog in three of their next four games (@SCAR, @LSU, vs. UK), but if they can just win their remaining home games (besides Kentucky), they should be fine. Basically, if you're an SEC team right now, you need to win all of your home games unless you're playing Kentucky.

Vanderbilt has put themselves behind the 8-ball after their buzzer-beating loss at Mississippi State. The Commodores might not be able to afford any more losses. If they win their next 4 games, including two top-50 wins against Florida and Kentucky, they can probably afford to lose their season finale at Texas A&M. Remember, the bubble is very weak, and Vanderbilt still has an RPI hovering around 60. However, even at that point, they might need a couple more top-50 wins in the SEC Tournament to assure their position in the NCAA Tournament field.

With a 1-7 record against top-50 teams, Georgia probably has to win their last 5 games in conference play and finish the regular season at 19-10 to feel like they have any shot at the NCAA Tournament. That would mean wins over Vanderbilt, South Carolina, and Alabama to close the season.

Ole Miss has an identical 1-7 record against top-50 teams, but they have no games left against quality opponents. Even if they do win out, I'm not sure that it will turn anyone's head on the committee. They'd likely have to win their remaining regular season games, and make a deep run in the SEC Tournament to have a chance.

At this point, every other team in the SEC would probably need to win the conference tournament in order to punch a ticket to the NCAA Tournament.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 4:26 pm to
I believe Lsu and SC both have road games at Arky, they are dangerous at home
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 4:40 pm to
Arkansas will probably beat both of them
Posted by CNB
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 4:42 pm to
Every team is dangerous at home. Or at least can be. I don't feel good at all about our last two road games.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 4:45 pm to
Willis' ankle is pretty well fricked. So that throws a pretty big wrench in things for UK with Poythress still out too. Despite the tech, Humphries stepping up right now is going to be huge down the stretch.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 4:48 pm to
If one SEC team makes it to the Sweet 16 I think it's a win for the conference. A lot of flawed teams at the top, but this has been a weird year overall in college hoops so who knows.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 4:49 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 5:07 pm to
Agreed.
Posted by REBSontheRISE
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 5:57 pm to
I cant help but think about what might have been, if Stefan Moody hadn't suffered a hamstring injury and missed 2 games. He got hurt with 4 minutes left in the Carolina game in Oxford. Rebels were up by 11 when he went down, and lost in overtime. Next game was at SNITCH U in starksville. lost that game 93-87 and Moody didn't play...what if Ole Miss sit at 19-8 and 9-5 in conference right now? yeah, what if...
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:43 pm to
It'll be all about those tournament matchups.

And with no semi-annual UofL/UK potential on the horizon I have no doubt they'll put us in a bracket with fricking kansas.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:02 pm to
LSU desperately needs a top 4 seed.

Starting to hope the teams like Alabama and Florida bow out early in the SEC Tournament, now that it's looking like LSU may need to win the entire thing.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:47 pm to
Thanks for the updates and the write ups.

SCAR continues to overachieve IMHO.

Kentucky is in the driver's seat.

LSU has to catch fire and probably win the tourney to make the cut.

A&M may have their confidence back and could be dangerous in the tourney.

Florida is going to have to battle their way to another four wins minimum IMHO, maybe five.

If SCAR gets a top 4 seed in the SEC tourney they are going to be rested and dangerous ... Martin was known for getting decent teams ready to play in tourneys at K St and he has a very gritty team, finally, this year ... but we're shite on the road so I dunno.

Vandy can still be the spoiler in all of this. At Florida, home vs Tennessee and Kentucky, then at A&M. Wow, just wow.

edited: there to their
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 11:01 pm
Posted by mikeboss550
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:46 pm to
I expect to see 4 SEC teams in the tourney in UK TAMU SC and UF. LSU is an outside shot to get us 5 in. SC wins against UT, MSU, UGA and a loss to close the season at Arky. The road games could flip but either way it should play that way. I love the job FM2 has done this season and hope we finally get past the first round of the tourney this year.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 11:47 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:19 am to
quote:

LSU is an outside shot to get us 5 in.
Bama has a better shot at this point. Saturday did not help, though.
Posted by mikeboss550
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:37 am to
I don't think Bama gets in I see LSU as a team who can get hot and win the tourney with thier horses. Bama has been a surprise and I think they will make a run in the NIT. LSU on the other hand has the tools to play tourney ball if not for a dumbass of a coach.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 12:38 am
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