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re: Updated Heisman odds
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:24 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:24 pm to lsupride87
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we didnt have a rushing attempt for the last 25 minutes of gametime
Seriously, it doesn't matter. You guys were a dumpster fire on offense last year too and Les decided to just give LF the ball every play against A&M and he made them all fall down and die.
LF will have 30 carries for 285 yards or something against A&M. Go ahead and bookmark it.
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:25 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:If he does I really thinks he wins. It will be tough IMHO for enough people to vote for Henry when you put their stats up side by side. But I also think there is a chance LF and Henry screw each other out the Heisman
LF will have 30 carries for 285 yards or something against A&M. Go ahead and bookmark it.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:27 pm to lsupride87
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there is a chance LF and Henry screw each other out the Heisman
I think this is very possible, especially if Mayfield or Eliot close with a huge bang.
If Eliot goes off the last 3 weeks I think he might steal it.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:29 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Or a qb steals it. I mean if Henry, LF, and Elliot all finish with 1800+ yards how do the voters chose between the 3? They wont, they will just pick the QB. That is why I think LF is the only running back with a chance. Because fair or not he has the sexy back story. Just like Ingram had the "no Bama player has won the Heisman" storyline. It takes something different for a RB to win these days
I think this is very possible, especially if Mayfield or Eliot close with a huge bang. If Eliot goes off the last 3 weeks I think he might steal it.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:30 pm to JuiceTerry
Coleman had the most 1st place votes last week in the ESPN poll and had a horrible game in their biggest one of the year. He's out of it.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:31 pm to lsupride87
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That is why I think LF is the only running back with a chance
LF will be sitting at home when Henry is playing in the SEC Championship game with all the Heisman voters watching...
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:33 pm to lsupride87
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That is why I think LF is the only running back with a chance. Because fair or not he has the sexy back story.
The backstory needs to be carrying the team to victory which is why, in part, Ingram won it.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:33 pm to GIbson05
quote:Thats fine......... That certainly helps Henry. But LF leading him in every single category will help him
LF will be sitting at home when Henry is playing in the SEC Championship game with all the Heisman voters watching...
They will both have cases.(assuming LF has big last two games and Henry continues his stretch) It is merely a guess what the voters will do. Hell, some are biased as shitePosted on 11/16/15 at 3:35 pm to 14&Counting
quote:I dont think that was the backstory for Ingram that helped. The media ran the "no Bama player has won it" over and over and over and over.
The backstory needs to be carrying the team to victory which is why, in part, Ingram won it.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:35 pm to Kcoyote
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Henry would have to stumble really hard
Not sure I agree. Zeke already averages more per carry and has more total yards (receiving included). If he goes for 450 or so over the next 3 weeks and OSU goes 13-0, he'll be at over 2,000 total yards on an undefeated team
I just hope one of the RBs wins it this year, as those are 3 teams very dependent on them
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:36 pm to lsupride87
Its going to be funny seeing your reactions when LF7 doesn't win.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:38 pm to MontyFranklyn
quote:Why? As of now I dont think he does. I have stated that multiple times in here. I said IF he goes for 450+ these next two games with the A&M game being 270+ I think he does win. However, I dont see that happening
Its going to be funny seeing your reactions when LF7 doesn't win.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:39 pm to Buckeye06
It's very possible that Henry goes for:
100 vs Charleston Southern
200 at Auburn
150 vs Florida
So the separation between Elliot and Henry would be razor thin.
It would be really tough to tease out the two, but I think Henry gets it, because he'll also have more TDs.
100 vs Charleston Southern
200 at Auburn
150 vs Florida
So the separation between Elliot and Henry would be razor thin.
It would be really tough to tease out the two, but I think Henry gets it, because he'll also have more TDs.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:45 pm to lsupride87
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But I also think there is a chance LF and Henry screw each other out the Heisman
Yep, don't overlook how regional the Heisman voting often is. Voting for the Heisman is usually has some of the most regional bias among any major award. For example you could have everyone in Big 10 country giving Elliot 1st place votes and everyone in the SEC splitting 1st and 2nd votes between Henry and Fournette.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:46 pm to Kcoyote
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It would be really tough to tease out the two, but I think Henry gets it, because he'll also have more TDs
See I think Elliott may get it because his team would be undefeated
I wouldn't mind either winning it honestly
Stats will be close and they both have the potential to go for 200+ in each of their remaining games
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:47 pm to lsupride87
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It will be tough IMHO for enough people to vote for Henry when you put their stats up side by side.
Really? You mean like this:
vs. Non - Conference Opponents
Fournette - 209.00 ypg
Henry - 98.33 ypg
vs. Conference Opponents
Henry - 166.14 ypg
Fournette - 141.17 ypg
vs Un-Ranked AP Opponents
Fournette - 184.00 ypg
Henry - 128.14 ypg
vs Ranked AP Opponents
Henry - 187.00 ypg
Fournette - 123.33 ypg
vs FBS non - Power 5 Opponents
Fournette - 191.50 ypg
Henry - 74.00 ypg
vs FBS Power 5 Opponents
Henry - 163.75 ypg
Fournette - 155.86
Yeah. Whatever. People take their vote seriously and they'll deep dive into those numbers and see that LF was padded against lesser competition and didn't rise up to the moment while Henry saw fewer carries against lesser competition and rose to the challenge in the biggest games.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:47 pm to Kcoyote
quote:So lets say your numbers happen vs auburn.
It's very possible that Henry goes for: 100 vs Charleston Southern 200 at Auburn 150 vs Florida So the separation between Elliot and Henry would be razor thin. It would be really tough to tease out the two, but I think Henry gets it, because he'll also have more TDs.
Henry will be at :
1908 yards, 146 yds/game, about 6.25 ypc(I assumed carries of 15,25,25 his last three games
Lets assime LF goes 150 and 270(I use this b/c this is his only shot for arguments sake)
He will be at;
1894 yards, 172 yds/game, 6.92 yards per carry(I assumed carries of 30,30)
Lets assume Elliot goes 150+ all three games remaining:
1875 yards, 144 yards/game, 6.35 yards per carry(I assumed carries of 25,25,25)
So here is the side by side comparrion
Henry 146yds/ game 6.25 YPC
LF 172yds/game 6.92 YPC
Elliot 144 yds/game 6.35 YPC
So, without being a homer LF will have a pretty big lead statistically, plus he will have the preseason and recruiting media hype for him. Elliot and Henry will have the undefeated team help for them. Would make for a very interesting vote
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:47 pm to GIbson05
quote:Yep. And that could go either way for them.
LF will be sitting at home when Henry is playing in the SEC Championship game with all the Heisman voters watching...
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:48 pm to Buckeye06
Eliot, Fournette and Henry are all great players
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:49 pm to Buckeye06
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See I think Elliott may get it because his team would be undefeated
I wouldn't mind either winning it honestly
Stats will be close and they both have the potential to go for 200+ in each of their remaining games
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