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re: University of Texas being sued for NOT doing what Tennessee does
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:26 pm to JustGetItRight
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:26 pm to JustGetItRight
I represented about half a dozen guys from my old fraternity in student conduct charges at USC. These student conduct hearings are sham proceedings that make a kangaroo court look legit. There are no evidentiary rules, no right of confrontation, no right to cross examine witnesses, no right to present evidence on your behalf and no real right to review evidence in the possession of the school. As if it couldn't get any worse, most of these hearings are run by the Melissa Click's of the world. I was so disillusioned by the whole process I contacted USC's General Counsel and President to complain. These things are so entrenched I got nothing but the run around.
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:43 pm to Kentucker
Let me lay this out for you.
This comes from the top, as in the presidential administration's interpretation of what federal law (Title IX) empowers them to do.
Through the U.S. Dept of Education's Office of Civil Rights, these interpretations are being used to grind axes and further political agendas (mostly the latter).
The attorneys for universities know that if they don't toe the federal line, they'll lose money. These schools are very dependent on federal funds.
So they adopt these kind of policies to protect themselves. They'd prefer to possibly spend money later defending these practices in court than losing federal money right now, with noncompliance.
Also remember that the standard of evidence is lower in civil matters (preponderance of the evidence) versus criminal matters (beyond reasonable doubt). Those old white men in wigs made it that way (reasonable doubt) because going to jail is involved.
This comes from the top, as in the presidential administration's interpretation of what federal law (Title IX) empowers them to do.
Through the U.S. Dept of Education's Office of Civil Rights, these interpretations are being used to grind axes and further political agendas (mostly the latter).
The attorneys for universities know that if they don't toe the federal line, they'll lose money. These schools are very dependent on federal funds.
So they adopt these kind of policies to protect themselves. They'd prefer to possibly spend money later defending these practices in court than losing federal money right now, with noncompliance.
Also remember that the standard of evidence is lower in civil matters (preponderance of the evidence) versus criminal matters (beyond reasonable doubt). Those old white men in wigs made it that way (reasonable doubt) because going to jail is involved.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:14 pm to JustGetItRight
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:18 pm to cardboardboxer
We're mere months away from this being a requirement to frick in college.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:28 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I think you're right and it's just so wrong. 
What has become of higher education?
What has become of higher education?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 11:40 pm to texashorn
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Also remember that the standard of evidence is lower in civil matters (preponderance of the evidence) versus criminal matters (beyond reasonable doubt). Those old white men in wigs made it that way (reasonable doubt) because going to jail is involved.
You're still entitled to discovery, cross examining witnesses, and presenting a defense in civil court. School judicial proceedings are a joke, always have been. How things have gone on like this as long as they have is ridiculous.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 7:44 am to lsufball19
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You're still entitled to discovery, cross examining witnesses, and presenting a defense in civil court. School judicial proceedings are a joke, always have been. How things have gone on like this as long as they have is ridiculous.
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 8:09 am to JustGetItRight
If you have a son at or near college age, you have to tell him he can never have sex with a girl who has consumed even the slightest bit of alcohol. That is the world we live in now.
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