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University of Texas being sued for NOT doing what Tennessee does
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:04 pm
SEC related because it is the exact inverse of the Tennessee situation.
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In a nutshell, a male Texas student is facing expulsion over a sexual encounter where no police report was filed and the girls FATHER filed a complaint with the school.
One of the cornerstones of his suit is that Texas is denying him a fundamental constitutional right by not letting him be represented by legal counsel. According to the story, there are about 50 similar suits in the courts right now.
The fact that Tennessee lets the accused have legal representation is a big part of the suit they're facing.
Odds are this whole thing is headed for the SCOTUS.
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In a nutshell, a male Texas student is facing expulsion over a sexual encounter where no police report was filed and the girls FATHER filed a complaint with the school.
One of the cornerstones of his suit is that Texas is denying him a fundamental constitutional right by not letting him be represented by legal counsel. According to the story, there are about 50 similar suits in the courts right now.
The fact that Tennessee lets the accused have legal representation is a big part of the suit they're facing.
Odds are this whole thing is headed for the SCOTUS.
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:05 pm to JustGetItRight
This isn't the only incident nor the only school.
A&M was actually censured for being too harsh in their enforcement methods.
A&M was actually censured for being too harsh in their enforcement methods.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:05 pm to JustGetItRight
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The three spent the night at an off-campus apartment belonging to one of the women, where Doe had sex with one woman that night and the other the next morning, according to the lawsuit.
What a fricking boss.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:09 pm to Ross
Pretty good book on the subject.
Kid can go to a whole bunch of other good schools in Texas or otherwise.
Kid can go to a whole bunch of other good schools in Texas or otherwise.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:13 pm to JustGetItRight
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The fact that Tennessee lets the accused have legal representation is a big part of the suit they're facing.
I find it strange that more schools don't allow legal representation when a student is facing expulsion.
And before anyone asks, NO, the University of Tennessee DOES NOT provide legal representation to athletes.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:15 pm to JustGetItRight
This is a mixed up world we are living in. No police report. No cries of foul from the girls. But a DAD starts this? Is this correct?
If so, we have taken our foot off the break and we are streaking into crazytown.
If so, we have taken our foot off the break and we are streaking into crazytown.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:19 pm to Jobu93
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This is a mixed up world we are living in. No police report. No cries of foul from the girls. But a DAD starts this? Is this correct?
My thoughts exactly. Daddy didn't like his daughter being taken to pound town. Had to be sexual assault or rape, amirite?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:26 pm to Jobu93
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If so, we have taken our foot off the break and we are streaking into crazytown.
While I can understand that UTex admins think it should be a school matter, it's a rape accusation, not an academic charge. This is a very serious matter and it should be handled in a court of law with all of the same requirements for evidence that an off-campus incident would command.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:27 pm to Kentucker
So he raped one at night, stayed the night, and raped the other roommate in the morning? Makes sense.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:27 pm to TheCosbySweater
Should've hugged his daughter more often.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:29 pm to Kentucker
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While I can understand that UTex admins think it should be a school matter, it's a rape accusation, not an academic charge. This is a very serious matter and it should be handled in a court of law with all of the same requirements for evidence that an off-campus incident would command.
Title IX brah, schools MUST have their own independent Student Judiciary Committees to decide the student's fate.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:29 pm to Kentucker
Administrative discipline (expulsion) doesn't preclude criminal charges.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:32 pm to JustGetItRight
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The three spent the night at an off-campus apartment belonging to one of the women, where Doe had sex with one woman that night and the other the next morning, according to the lawsuit.
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Doe told investigators that the woman was enthusiastic about the encounter and talked about being in a pornographic movie.
Why can't this shite happen to me?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:33 pm to TigerTalker16
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Why can't this shite happen to me?
I thought it happened to everybody
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:40 pm to JustGetItRight
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Odds are this whole thing is headed for the SCOTUS.
good, there is a widespread push on college campuses to make accusations equate to convictions
young men are getting expelled and having their lives ruined without any kind of due process
hopefully, SCOTUS will get involved and afford constitutional protection to the accused
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:42 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Wait, I just watched the video. She said on 3 separate occasions that Tennessee pays for attorneys for male athletes, that is absolutely incorrect.
The school DOES NOT pay for attorneys, they afford the accused the right to have an attorney. Which they should.
The school DOES NOT pay for attorneys, they afford the accused the right to have an attorney. Which they should.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:15 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I find it strange that more schools don't allow legal representation when a student is facing expulsion.
I don't.
Schools have become the bastions of the fascists hiding behind the words "progressive" and "liberal".
Rights and freedom are not what they are all about.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:19 pm to TigerTalker16
Lower your standards, surely you could pick up a couple hogs on last call
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:23 pm to texashorn
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Administrative discipline (expulsion) doesn't preclude criminal charges.
You'd think the school would want the criminal charges to be answered before they acted upon the expulsion of the student. The process seems backwards.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:26 pm to dcbl
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good, there is a widespread push on college campuses to make accusations equate to convictions
And hearsay evidence is being allowed to support the accusations. Maybe that's why the woman didn't bother with submitting physical evidence.
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