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Posted on 1/13/15 at 4:47 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 1/13/15 at 4:47 pm to cardboardboxer
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Didn't Ole Miss outbid them at only $4ish mil a year? Pathetic.
This is hilarious.
Freeze just wanted a raise, and his agent made all that chit up. We never offered him, and everyone knew he was Ole Miss's guy.
And where is the next 6 mil dollar coach at? Meatchicken got Harbrough because he is an alumn, and he had to think hard about it. Where else was a coach willing to leave? There was nobody else worth it available. With the play offs it is beneficial to be a coach in a crappy conference- see FSU making the play offs.
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 4:50 pm to cardboardboxer
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I will say that interactions with UF fans on this forum have made me wish FSU was SEC, I mean if they weren't so fricking poor. I know I could troll the hell out of them Free Shoes folks.
FSU is a clown college, so yeah, they are not that bright. 
Posted on 1/13/15 at 4:52 pm to slayerxing
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If you believe that Jeremy Foley, a major Athletic Director walked into that living room without some idea about the buy out
It could happen. I have never seen one that large. Could be he assumed a normal buyout or that CSU would fold easily. It is rare for a buyout to be that big, and for them to stick to it.
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You think McElwain didn't know he had a buyout?
I am sure he thought he had one, but his comments from that time indicated he didn't think it was that large. I mean, he is paying $2 million of it, that says to me "I fricked up and agreed to a big buyout without thinking."
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I don't see how it is that unstable.
Fair enough.
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Do you know why they are called Free Shoes U?
No actually. Well other than OBC called them that. I have no clue the context.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 5:01 pm to slayerxing
UF and LSU are the exact same the last 5 years. And amazing D with a shitty O. LSU has looked better (AKA won more) because the get rent a wins in MSU, OM, Arkansas, A&M, and us(unfortunately) in the last 5.
Right now concern is recruiting. Muschamp left us in a terrible spot( some of that is due to AD not firing him after last year but I understand why we did it). After that we will see where we are in the Spring.
Does it suck to lose to Georgia St.(Southern? Whatever the frick that team was) last year? Of course. Does it suck to lose the LSU, USC, and FSU games the way we did this year? Of course. Does it suck to watch us block each other every game. Abso-frickin-loutely
But we got rid of the cancer of all that, and assembled a very good coaching staff in all areas. How we proceed from here depends entirely on this staff and who they close with next month.
Life is good on the Gator front imo. Lotta reasons to be optimistic
Right now concern is recruiting. Muschamp left us in a terrible spot( some of that is due to AD not firing him after last year but I understand why we did it). After that we will see where we are in the Spring.
Does it suck to lose to Georgia St.(Southern? Whatever the frick that team was) last year? Of course. Does it suck to lose the LSU, USC, and FSU games the way we did this year? Of course. Does it suck to watch us block each other every game. Abso-frickin-loutely
But we got rid of the cancer of all that, and assembled a very good coaching staff in all areas. How we proceed from here depends entirely on this staff and who they close with next month.
Life is good on the Gator front imo. Lotta reasons to be optimistic
Posted on 1/13/15 at 5:04 pm to cardboardboxer
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-Do y'all feel if Foley knew McElwain had that crazy $7 million buyout he would have still pursued him?
-Follow up question if no: If Foley wouldn't have been caught in the livingroom of McElwain by the press do yall think he would have backed out when he learned the buy-out? Like if it was all in secret.
-I got a feeling that McElwain didn't even know he was locked in with such a huge buyout. Am I correct in your opinion?
Absolutely he knew. Everyone on Florida message boards knew, so I'm pretty darn sure he had to know. I believe Foley strongly believes in up and coming coaches (Billy D home run). I really think he saw the same thing in Boom (big mistake), and now coach Mac. Just observing the way Mac has made his coaching staff hires makes me think we are in good hands. We will see.
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-Most of the time "destination" jobs are the last major stop in college for a college coach- either you flop so hard you are at a mid major or you do so well the NFL hires you. Yet in the last month-ish we have watched one former UF coach win a title, and another was seen as the biggest splash hire of the SEC offseason. Heck, even Spurrier didn't take up his old visor after the NFL. What is it about UF that makes it such an unstable place for coaches in your opinion?
Urban's leaving the program has been discussed. Muschamp was fired THANK GOD. There is a lot of pressure to win at FL. I think the OBC was young enough at the time he let the pressure get to him, and left. I don't think he was offered the job back when Zook left.
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-UF has watched FSU turn into what is easily the most corrupt program in college football. I personally think the police department defending their QB is worse than anything Miami did. Does it make yall nevious to have such a loose cannon (in such a weak conference) going off in your state? Do yall have some plan, via investigative reporting or some political power play, to bring them back to a level playing field?
I really doesn't make me nervous. Miami imploded after years of Shapiro. FSU will have to pay for it's transgressions. The woman who alleges Winston raped her is now suing FSU. There is a second woman now making claims as well. Someone will eventually talk. And recruits who are willing to go to FSU because they know their transgressions will get covered are not the kind of recruits I personally want at UF. Recruits from good families will prefer UF over FSU. Mac understands that he needs to recruit FL first- something Boom was too stupid to realize. I believe our recruiting should greatly improved. The coaches hired are great recruiters.
I hope that helps.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 5:18 pm to cardboardboxer
This is just one fan's opinion, I have no insider info:
No, but I'll say that a lot of the paranoid FSU fans think UF controls the politics and media of the state and is responsible for the leak of info about their PD and university. I don't know if their program is as dirty as everyone makes it out to be but I can't say I hate it as a UF fan.
Problem is, the state of our offense has been pretty poor during Muschamp's era. This fanbase is used to high powered offenses. The recruiting class is pretty sparse ATM but if the current coaching staff can develop players better than previous years, that will be A-OK.
quote:I think so. Football and basketball (to a lesser extent) fund the rest of the program as well as the academic institution. The best available hire needed to be made.
-Do y'all feel if Foley knew McElwain had that crazy $7 million buyout he would have still pursued him?
quote:I don't think so but it's a surprise that the hire wasn't discreet. UFAA and Foley are generally conservative and secretive. But that 7mil must have given him the sweats. He's a great money manager so a figure like that
Follow up question if no: If Foley wouldn't have been caught in the livingroom of McElwain by the press do yall think he would have backed out when he learned the buy-out? Like if it was all in secret.
quote:You would think when signing a contract he would've known, right? I think he might have miscalculated the negotiation of the buyout regarding the 'dream job' clause in his contract.
-I got a feeling that McElwain didn't even know he was locked in with such a huge buyout. Am I correct in your opinion?
quote:I don't think that's fair. Spurrier went to the NFL. Meyer had a bunch of issues at Gainesville that made him want to leave. Some of those issues are things he had a direct hand in. Muschamp and Zook would have stayed, but they weren't any good.
What is it about UF that makes it such an unstable place for coaches in your opinion?
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Does it make yall nevious to have such a loose cannon (in such a weak conference) going off in your state? Do yall have some plan, via investigative reporting or some political power play, to bring them back to a level playing field?
No, but I'll say that a lot of the paranoid FSU fans think UF controls the politics and media of the state and is responsible for the leak of info about their PD and university. I don't know if their program is as dirty as everyone makes it out to be but I can't say I hate it as a UF fan. Problem is, the state of our offense has been pretty poor during Muschamp's era. This fanbase is used to high powered offenses. The recruiting class is pretty sparse ATM but if the current coaching staff can develop players better than previous years, that will be A-OK.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 5:23 pm to cardboardboxer
quote:It's one of HBC's best quips. Background
No actually. Well other than OBC called them that. I have no clue the context.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 5:38 pm to jefffan
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some of that is due to AD not firing him after last year but I understand why we did it
Do you, can your explain it? I'm still astounded by that decision.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 5:39 pm to cardboardboxer
Nobody has it worse than Tennessee fans
Posted on 1/13/15 at 6:02 pm to tillsb
Injuries, and the fact that we did win 11 games in 2012. If we only win 8 that year he's gone. My guess (no insider info at all) is that he didn't want to appear hasty and fire the guy after one terrible year ( Similar to Nebraska with Solich even though firing a 9-3 coach is worse than 5-7).
The D was going to be excellent this year. And we got a new OC who to bring new life on O. Easy schedule. We were setup to do win a lot more games than we ended up with this year and didn't, thus the firing.
Do any of you believe WM is not here if we win the LSU, USC, and the FSU game? I think he still is. FSU was the dirt on the coffin, but the USC game is just about the worst 4th quarter chokejob I've seen.
The D was going to be excellent this year. And we got a new OC who to bring new life on O. Easy schedule. We were setup to do win a lot more games than we ended up with this year and didn't, thus the firing.
Do any of you believe WM is not here if we win the LSU, USC, and the FSU game? I think he still is. FSU was the dirt on the coffin, but the USC game is just about the worst 4th quarter chokejob I've seen.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:12 pm to cardboardboxer
quote:I'm pretty happy with the way things are going.
UF Fans Have It Worse Than LSU Fans
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:14 pm to Tolbert1906
Obviously this thread is now way off base. Y'all have it better than LSU today.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:59 pm to austingator
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I hope that helps.
Hugely. Thanks.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:01 pm to cornhat
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cornhat
That is exactly what I wanted, thank you. I will remember to say please next time.
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