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re: True or False. Kevin Sumlin just nut punched LSU's football program

Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
3695 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:52 pm to
False, we lost a JC safety but besides that Mack was always going to UT. Latest rumor today even has Mack visiting LSU later this month anyways. Phillips said chavis leaving doesn't matter. We actually will be getting an even better DC for cheaper who actually recruits. Good luck recruiting with chavis. Ask UTenn how much chavis likes to recruit
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30593 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:52 pm to
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But you did



You did not take Nick Saban. You took Chavis. In case you forgot Tennessee fired Chavis's arse 5 years ago.


But go ahead and celebrate little brother Aggies. You earned it! King of moral victories.


Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:53 pm to
If we were happy with Chavis we would've actually tried to keep him.

Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:53 pm to
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Pretty funny little brother Aggies.


Moral victory? Hang a banner.



THERE WILL BE SHIRTS
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9745 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:56 pm to
True.

Like I said in a previous post, this is a perception problem for LSU. it will hurt lsu's recruiting vs TAMU when they go head to head on defense recruits. Especially the guys in Texas that lsu has been able to steal from TAMU in the past.

Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
4057 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:57 pm to
Don't ya think LSU would've come up with a few hundred K if they REALLY REALLY thought losing Chavis would be some sort of a program destroyer; especially considering how bad our offense is? Chavis is good, LSU gave him all the talent in the world to work with on defense, I say LSU "gave him" because we all know Chavis doesn't recruit but LSU wasn't going to be bullied into paying him more than they were offering him. They realized his worth & figure they can get someone just as good, probably better at devising schemes to apply pressure & stop late game winning drives, for what they want to pay a DC.
And since you are so concerned about nut punches, just realize that LSU will continue to nut punch aTm, this time , Chavis will be on the receiving end.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Tigerfan53
Death Valley
Member since Nov 2010
3105 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:57 pm to
We did not match.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30593 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:57 pm to
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Moral victory? Hang a banner.


THERE WILL BE SHIRTS



Does this mean the little brother Aggies will stop bragging about beating a 2-9 LSU team 25 years ago? Now they will brag about taking an over the hill old coach for the next 20 years who did less with the most talent on defense in the SEC.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:57 pm to
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We could not match.


fify
Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:58 pm to
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this is a perception problem for LSU. it will hurt lsu's recruiting vs TAMU when they go head to head on defense recruits. Especially the guys in Texas that lsu has been able to steal from TAMU in the past


Any reasonable LSU fan will agree with this. It looks bad, but as long as we make a good DC hire I don't think it will be a big deal outside of this year and maybe next.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:00 pm to
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But you did
If I understand the issues correctly, the sticking point was not money, it was job security. If CLM retired/was hired elsewhere he wanted a guarantee that he would be retained as the DC (similar to his situation at UT). He was told no, that decision would be made by any incoming HC. So he took the money and walked. A simple business decision.

From my perspective, this makes me believe CLM will be leaving sooner rather than later (through retirement). The guy is a smart DC overall, a non-existent recruiter, and a horrible two minute/slim lead guy. Enjoy your hire.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76220 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:01 pm to
We aren't really that upset
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12455 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:02 pm to
Has A&M figured out that their head coach is a loser?
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55228 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:03 pm to
How old is Les? I didn't think he was anywhere near old enough to consider retirement
Posted by RaginRed
Ohio
Member since Sep 2014
433 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:11 pm to
Hey if you can't beat em'

steal their coach.


2014 - 23-17 LOSS
2013 - 34-10 LOSS
2012 - 24-19 LOSS
2010 - 41-24 LOSS

Take Chavis, LSU just gave you a handicap
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:11 pm to
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How old is Les? I didn't think he was anywhere near old enough to consider retirement
61 with a contract through 2019. They man loves recruiting (his greatest strength) and coaching kids but I personally think he realizes he is not an elite coach (nothing to back it up - just an opinion). He is not driven to win like CNS, period. I think he is closer to retirement than we all realize and Chavis knows it. He does not want to get caught in the revolving door that happened at UT. Again, just my opinion. Bottom line, when you give him a lot of talent and depth (the LSU model for winning), Chavis is a solid coach. He knows SEC offenses and how to match up against them. But I would not consider him elite. He is not a schemer that will knock your socks off with something exotic. He just beats you because his players are (generally) better and he has more depth.
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7624 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:13 pm to
False
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77298 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:16 pm to
False...start getting use to 3rd and Chavis...
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13069 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:20 pm to
1. Les Miles will hire a good DC.

2. One thing you can bet on: A&M has not beaten LSU in football this century and that will not change in November in Baton Rouge.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:23 pm to
He cant stand tall against them so yes, I'd say so
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