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re: Trev Alberts says A&M will share revenue directly w/athletes $15-$20 mil per year

Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:37 pm to
I don't think football money or basketball money will stretch to other sports but the player percentages of money will remain the same in all sports. We're moving away from football and basketball financing all the other sports. That's something that's also going on right now.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 9:39 pm
Posted by MOJO_ERASER
Tulsa Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:42 pm to
wont happen. fans will lose interest and stop going to games. when that happens it all ends.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9450 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:50 pm to
The fans won't go anywhere. It's going to happen.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 9:55 pm
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22096 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:05 pm to
They will pull the money from the twelfth man foundation. The one that A&M graduates donate to religiously. Things have changed since the NCAA stopped it the first time.

If you think any school cares what the NCAA says at this point, you are deluded. TN just neutered them in court. And this is the new normal. Every SEC and B1G school will be doing this within a year …
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 10:06 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8212 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:40 pm to
Are they going to bill all the athletes that play sports that lose money?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8212 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:42 pm to
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I don't think football money or basketball money will stretch to other sports but the player percentages of money will remain the same in all sports. We're moving away from football and basketball financing all the other sports. That's something that's also going on right now.


Title IX might have something to say about that.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9450 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:13 pm to
Title 9 will have little to do with this. This will be an employment issue. Professors in Business, Law, Engineering, etc make more money than professors in liberal arts. Football players and male basketball players at Power schools will get more money than their female counterparts because they are part of a bigger revenue pie and demand more money.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9450 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:22 pm to
You can't do that unless you give the athletes ownership. Athletes will be employees.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 11:24 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8212 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:24 pm to
This won’t work out how you think it will work out.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15007 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:24 pm to
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wont happen. fans will lose interest and stop going to games. when that happens it all ends.

What will happen is OU fans will be left out in the SEC if they refuse to support NIL and transfer portal.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
3808 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 5:22 am to
fug it
im out
yall enjoy…
Posted by teamjackson
Headspace, LLC
Member since Nov 2012
4616 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 5:39 am to
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Shaft Williams


You are not an Alabama fan
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:05 am to
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Except, if you're an employee, you sign an employment contract. And that would probably be a 2-4 year contract


then shite stirring media does an FOI to find out who makes what, publishes it, and 25-40% of every team has a mutiny over who makes more money than who

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with incentives on the backside.







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Being an employee fixes 95% of these problems


yeah let's trust the corporate America model!



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The bag man isn't giving you the bag if you can't come for two years.


the bag man comes whenever the 5-star says he comes

the 5-star blew all his monthly stipend at the strip club, and the 5-star is not hearing anything about an employment contract
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10005 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:34 am to
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the bag man comes whenever the 5-star says he comes


Ok, who cares? It's way better than today because you have stability.

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yeah let's trust the corporate America model!


Oh yeah, the college football system is way more trustworthy. Good call!
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4331 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:16 am to
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The onus of paying the kids needs to be put on the school, and get the boosters out of it.


The courts have made it so that can't happen.

Even if schools start paying players, the courts made it so NIL contracts can't be regulated. Boosters will be able to give more money to players in that scenario and there's nothing the schools, conferences or whatever replaces the NCAA can do about it.

Because of that, no regulation for pay to play is possible because boosters are outside the system. School payments can be regulated, but not booster payments through NIL.

End result: those with boosters willing to pay will get more recruits, which will only lessen parity in the sport.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2769 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:20 am to
A&M about to kill the golden goose for us all…and you know they aren’t even going to win a title doing it.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10005 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:22 am to
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The courts have made it so that can't happen.


I don't think you're reading them correctly.

If you fix the sport by making the players employees, the impetus for boosters or third parties to pay goes down significantly.

Pay the players, make contracts, institute a draft. Then the NIL is only used for actual promotion.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4331 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:27 am to
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A&M about to kill the golden goose for us all…and you know they aren’t even going to win a title doing it.


Tennessee's lawsuit already killed the goose.

It has made the bylaws that make pay for play against the rules illegal. That was the end. All the stuff following that are simply the results of that lawsuit.
Posted by jamespatterson
Member since Aug 2023
2088 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:29 am to
The only people unhappy with paying players are the bluebloods.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4331 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:39 am to
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I don't think you're reading them correctly.

If you fix the sport by making the players employees, the impetus for boosters or third parties to pay goes down significantly.

Pay the players, make contracts, institute a draft. Then the NIL is only used for actual promotion.


It only would work if a draft were allowed, and a draft of 17 year old minors by public colleges is never going to be legal.

Even if you somehow got around the fact that these are minors, you get stuck by anti-trust laws. Professional drafts are legal because the player unions for the entire sport exist. That allows collectively bargained agreements witht he leagues that break antitrust laws if the unions weren't in place.

You'd need the existing players to form a national union for colleges, then have that union collectively bargain a deal with the schools/conferences that make it so they can ONLY hire union players in order to force high school prospects to join the union, then have the union agree to a draft/salary cap scenario.

If you believe that's possible, I don't know what to tell you. It will literally never happen.

Schools can decided to pay players, but they have no realistic avenue to take away the players right to choose where they go. And that means that boosters will still be able to pay players to attend the school they want to support.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 8:44 am
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