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re: Top 5 running backs in the SEC in the past decade

Posted on 5/12/16 at 7:02 am to
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
4398 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 7:02 am to
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By saying Leonard sucks because he didn't do a lot against bama is asinine. Considering none of those backs above him played the bama of today. Two are from Bama.
bama isn't the only team he's had bad games against
Posted by steefhog
Member since Oct 2011
131 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 7:18 am to
Henry also had an Oline that made holes a grandmother could walk through.

Fournette does not.

It really becomes difficult to compare.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22756 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 7:46 am to
Fournette jumps to #1 with another season like last year......
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 7:48 am to
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Henry also had an Oline that made holes a grandmother could walk through. Fournette does not. It really becomes difficult to compare.



Without getting back into one of these ridiculous Henry vs Fournette debates, the idea that Henry played behind a great offensive line is just flat out wrong. Watch the first 2/3 of the season. Our offensive line was above average at best, average to below average at worst.
Posted by BlackCloud
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:05 am to
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Without getting back into one of these ridiculous Henry vs Fournette debates,

That's the most fascinating thing about message boards.
In the real world where it matters most (in NFL scouting departments and every coach in CFB) there is no debate. I seriously doubt you would find 1 single coach in either the NFL or CFB who would take Henry over Fournette (even Saban). Tell me with a straight e-face that you disagree. Cmon, I need a good laugh.

But you goobers who spend all day on here will go round-n-round posting irrelevant stats that mean absolutely nothing when it comes to determining which back is significantly better (it ain't even close in the real world).

Keep debating this while the rest of us with productive lives look on with amusement and bewilderment.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43810 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:12 am to
Seriously, just shut the frick up.

Henry gets unwarranted hate from LSU fans, myself included for a while last year, and it's getting embarrassing now. He was a monster and deserves all the credit he received when he won the heisman.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:13 am to
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That's the most fascinating thing about message boards. In the real world where it matters most (in NFL scouting departments and every coach in CFB) there is no debate. I seriously doubt you would find 1 single coach in either the NFL or CFB who would take Henry over Fournette (even Saban). Tell me with a straight e-face that you disagree.


The debate isn't about who is the better NFL specimen. The debate is about who had a better season last season. I don't really care about it to be frank.

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irrelevant stats


Like, stats in general? This idea that Henry plodded around behind the best OL in CFB history is such a weird fvckin obsession of some people. I don't get it. I don't understand why people hate the dude so much. He is what he is - great college running back, specific skill set, workhouse, good kid, probably will be an average to above average NFL back.

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rest of us with productive lives


This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 8:15 am
Posted by Walker_Abel
We fricked
Member since Sep 2015
307 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:16 am to
Fournette is a beast and a heck of an athlete. Hoping he doesn't trample our young D-line this year lol best of luck to him
Posted by BlackCloud
Above It All
Member since Jan 2014
3816 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:18 am to
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Seriously, just shut the frick up.

Oh look who we have here, one of the idiots I see blustering and blundering all day long on a message board. Make me shut up, muther fricker. I can assure you, you ain't man enough.
If I wanted any shite out of you I would e-squeeze your head.

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Henry gets unwarranted hate from LSU fans, myself included for a while last year, and it's getting embarrassing now.

Your dumb arse may have "hated" on him, but not me.
He is a very good back who had 400 carries in 15 games. The NFL saw through it and so did anyone else with a brain. Have a good day arguing with all of your message board butt-buddies. I'm out.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:21 am to
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Oh look who we have here, one of the idiots I see blustering and blundering all day long on a message board. Make me shut up, muther fricker. I can assure you, you ain't man enough. If I wanted any shite out of you I would e-squeeze your head.


Guy blabbering about having a productive life challenging e-dudes to fight.

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The NFL saw through it and so did anyone else with a brain


Saw through what, exactly? He was a high 2nd round pick, the #2 RB taken in the draft. Did I miss something?

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Have a good day arguing with all of your message board butt-buddies. I'm out.


HELL YEA FVCK MESSAGE BOARDS BUNCHA NERDS says guy with 1,500 posts.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43810 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:26 am to
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BlackCloud


Guy posting on a message board making fun of someone who posts on a message board.

Classic.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:29 am to
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Guy posting on a message board making fun of someone who posts on a message board. Classic.


Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73481 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:33 am to
I like this Blackcloud guy. He simultaneously rustled a Bama fan and LSU fan by speaking the truth.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39207 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:36 am to
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LF7 hasn't even been the best RB in the SEC either of the last 2 seasons.


He was hands down the best back in the SEC. Whoever was second - it probably was not Henry - was far distant. If you disagree, let's just wait for the experts to chime in during the draft
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:46 am to
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Whoever was second - it probably was not Henry - was far distant. If you disagree, let's just wait for the experts to chime in during the draft


Henry was the 1st SEC RB taken in the draft this season. Chubb was hurt last year. So......who was #2 then?

Again - this hate of Henry is just strange. I don't get it.
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 8:47 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86463 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:49 am to
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If you disagree, let's just wait for the experts to chime in during the draft


Just FYI, using NFL draft pick order to determine who was a better college player is utterly retarded.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10445 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:59 am to
It is honestly pretty hard to compare LF7 to Henry. Before LSU lost their starting fullback,LF was putting up kuch better numbers than he did the rest of the season. Though, that was against much easier teams.

But I honestly think LSU's lack of a passing game is being undervalued here. Bama had an amazing front 7 this year. Combine that with the fact that they could put 9 in the box since there was no passing threat.
Then Arkansas followed off of the same plan to shite down LF7.

If LSU can pass the ball at all this year, LF's numbers vs the tougher teams will be much better.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30871 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 9:01 am to
I love how the whole justification for people to bad mouth Henry is, apparently, the argument that their own teams are total crap outside of the RB position, while Alabama is fielding demigods at every position save QB.

Truly, you all should feel privileged that we let you plebeians take the field against our superheroes.

:facepalm:
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10445 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 9:10 am to
It isn't just the players, it is the coaching staff and game strategy. When everyone in the entire freaking stadium knows you are going to run the ball up the middle on first and second down, it isn't that hard to stop. Especially when your team is as talented as bama's front 7 was this year.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39207 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 9:13 am to
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Again - this hate of Henry is just strange. I don't get it.


I don't hate Henry. I think he's an excellent back. I also am far from a Bama hater. I admire their coach and program, and I often root for them.

I'm also not an LSU homer. Fournette is the only guy on our team who I think is hands down the best at his position in the SEC. Adams at safety and Malachi at WR are in contention.

I also agree with the previous poster that the NFL draft is not always a reliable barometer. But we have nothing else except the evidence of our own eyes. Using those I will tell you this fact: Leonard Fournette is the best back in college football since Adrian Peterson. No one in the SEC last year was in his class - and there were some very fine backs in the SEC last year. Anyone who doesn't see this just doesn't know football.

The draft is not the final judgement, but it sure is good evidence. Fournette will go a full round higher than Henry. Why? Because he's much better.
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