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re: Tony Barnhart just picked Gators for east

Posted on 7/7/17 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 6:52 pm to
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But everything else is there for UF to have an elite offense.


Sounds good. Good luck...
Posted by ChopBlockOclock
Your Head
Member since Jan 2017
800 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 7:09 pm to
People wrote off UF last year too and yet there they were at the end of the year in Atlanta. McElwain has done an impressive job given his lack of talent at QB and a patchwork Oline 2 years ago. If Zaire dials it in under Nuss they could be really good this year. Good WRs, a strong RB, experience on Oline is a good recipe for success.

I mean until someone knocks UF off you have to like them in preseason. Especially since their offense should be a little more composed this year. If the defense only manages to take half a step back, I agree 11-1 or 10-2 could be on the horizon which would put them in Atlanta again.

UT has a new QB, RBs and some replacements to make on D. Also a new OC. And Butch Jones just hasnt shown me that his teams have that edge to win in a tight game. I thought they turned the corner vs. UGA last year with the tough comeback on the road but fell off later in the year. Lots of lockerroom distractions as well with the whole Hurd debacle.

UGA should be very strong on the front 7 but their DB's were only serviceable at times last year. Obviously RB is set but until their Oline proves they have improved the RB combo should be discounted. Perhaps a couple new freshmen could step up but until they prove it as well you cant possibly predict greatness without taking a snap of SEC football. Eason also needs to do some improving. Also Cheney...a handicap that AR fans warned about that absolutely proved he hasnt changed his propensity to abandon the run.
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 7:40 pm to
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Also Cheney...a handicap that AR fans warned about that absolutely proved he hasnt changed his propensity to abandon the run.


I keep seeing this. The numbers don't bear it out.

UGA had 533 rushing plays in 2016. They attempted 386 passes. Even if you take away the 33 rushing plays of Eason and add them to the passing plays it is still 500 to 419.
Posted by ChopBlockOclock
Your Head
Member since Jan 2017
800 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 7:53 pm to
It is not that he doesnt run the ball. Its when he abandons the run in key situations. Or calls a boneheaded run play completely misusing personnel. For example, last year at home vs. Vandy 4th and 3. He puts Sony and Chubb on the field. Instead of the play going to Chubb who is much more capable of the tough yardage, he calls a play which makes Chubb block for Sony. They dont get the 1st down and game over.

Vs. Auburn a dumbass WR pass to a WR in the endzone for an INT. Didnt cost them the game but easily could have.

Vs. GT with time winding down 2nd and 7? They call a time out presnap after lining up to run a play. Dumb for stopping the clock. They come out of the time out and line up the same way as the play before the snap. Its a pass. Dumber. Our DB read the play before the timeout and when they came out and lined up the same way he was in position to intercept. Dumbest. Should have kept running the ball and running clock. Instead GT intercepts and wins the game.

I am sure there are other examples. His situational playcalling is pretty mindnumbing at times.

Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 9:34 pm to
I still believe Georgia is the pick in the East
Posted by KajunGator
Lake Arthur, LA
Member since May 2011
7285 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 11:09 pm to
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quote:
All they needed was 10 points to beat LSU last year.


Yeah, 7 defensive draft picks ago.


Injury list from the LSU game...

LB Alex Anzalone – Arm (Drafted)
DE Bryan Cox Jr. – Leg (UDFA)
C Cam Dillard – Knee
DE/DT CeCe Jefferson – Foot
WR C.J. Worton – Ankle
OL David Sharpe – Leg (Drafted)
LB Jarrad Davis – Ankle (Drafted)
QB Luke Del Rio – Shoulder
S Marcus Maye – Arm (Drafted)
RB Mark Herndon – Undisclosed
OL Tyler Jordan – Ankle

There's 4 of your Defensive Draft players

LSU was held to 10 points with (mostly) underclassmen and backups.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10333 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:56 am to

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All they needed was 16 points and a shitload of lucky breaks to beat LSU last year.


FIFY
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:22 am to
UF has less talent on offense then TN and UGA. FYI
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11130 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:29 am to
If Georgia doesn't win the East this year Kirby Smart should be fired on the spot. It is so ripe for the picking. They have salty defense, the best running back in the East, and a pro prospect quarterback.
Posted by TearsofKnowshon
Athens
Member since Dec 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:08 am to
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For example, last year at home vs. Vandy 4th and 3. He puts Sony and Chubb on the field. Instead of the play going to Chubb who is much more capable of the tough yardage, he calls a play which makes Chubb block for Sony. They dont get the 1st down and game over.


This was actually 4th and 1 with the game on the line. Chaney lined us up in an I formation with Chubb at fullback and McKenzie at running back. Vandy called timeout. Georgia came back out in the same formation and ran a toss sweep to Mckenzie. Stopped for no gain. We lose. frick Chaney.
Posted by TearsofKnowshon
Athens
Member since Dec 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:11 am to
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They have salty defense, the best running back in the East, and a pro prospect quarterback.


And a giant question mark at O line. I agree that I think we should win the East but a bad offensive line can ruin a lot of things for a good team. If they are solid we should be really good. If not...
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24458 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:20 am to
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Tony Barnhart just picked..

. Just as soon asked Fine Bum to pick as they both hate their respective universities.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:37 am to
The East is wide open therefore a mediocre UF will win by default. That's just the way it is
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52283 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:52 am to
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UF has less talent on offense then TN and UGA. FYI


Might wanna check again.
Posted by ChopBlockOclock
Your Head
Member since Jan 2017
800 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:59 am to
My bad. Had that a little mixed up. Its actually worse that he put mckenzie in. That kid is what 170 soaking wet? Just a dumb call all around.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:49 am to
Dobb just picked UF on ATL sports radio, but said UGA "could" win it and UT is the dark horse.

Says Gus has his QB and LSU is unknown, so Bama wins the West.

Says tOSU is the only match to Bama.
Posted by TheGators
Member since Aug 2015
716 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 12:42 pm to
He picked us in 2011 because we hired Charlie Weis. Not even joking. He said it on TV.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30955 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 12:45 pm to
Does it really matter who the East's sacrificial lamb is?
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19257 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 1:52 pm to
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I think you may be thinking of your buddy Brando
'

Tony Barnhart




Tim Brando





Marlon Brando




Tony Bruno




Tony Bennett

Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12519 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 2:39 pm to
UF won the east the last 2 years and they have a better offense this year. So they should be the favorite, Georgia has the talent but they may have Muschamp 2.0.
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