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re: Tonight, Texas A&M's campus will darken for Silver Taps

Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:42 am to
Posted by EKG
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:42 am to
Most of these traditions are many generations old, Pettifogger--borne of "something bigger;" they weren't created just because.

Without a doubt, Texas A&M University isn't for everyone.


Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:43 am to
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It just seems at some point, rather than letting traditions come naturally, the focus became developing a lot of traditions for the sake of being very traditional.


Our traditions did develop "naturally," though. Just because we have a lot of them doesn't water down the meaning of each one. You realize this is a nearly 138 year old institution

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I'm curious as to whether I'd get tired of it or feel like it was forced.


None of the traditions are compulsory, and some students choose not to participate in some/all of them.

We call them "2 percenters," though, because those students are usually a minority.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:44 am to
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Basically I'm curious as to whether I'd get tired of it or feel like it was forced.


Why do you feel that way? Just because there's so many?

They're not "forced" and I'm not really sure why a lot of things are called a "tradition."
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:44 am to
Ya'll are weird.....but sometimes its a good weird:)
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:45 am to


Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:46 am to
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Be Careful and I love you both, D.C.

(Three weeks later, the next Silver Taps honored three A&M students killed in a car-truck accident near Roanoke in Denton County on November 9.

One of them was Don Coward.)


O.M.G.

That's as eerie a story as I've heard in a long while.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:57 am to
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Ya'll are weird.....but sometimes its a good weird:)


Damn straight
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:00 am to
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We call them "2 percenters," though, because those students are usually a minority.


Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:02 am to
For example, most SEC school major traditions happened sporadically, and people decided to keep doing them. For TAMU, I think either they didn't really happen sporadically, or you decided to keep doing EVERYTHING for the purpose of creating new traditions. Either of those things is what I'm talking about. Your traditions outnumber the SEC combined. I respect TAMU a lot, but I don't think you just have that much more going on, something happened to create that.

My point really isn't to disparage and I don't want to derail the discussion of this one any further. In sum, my observation is that TAMU is tradition rich, but very much on purpose. For the record, I think I'd tire of TAMU attitude, but not really the traditions. I'm pretty fond of most I've witnessed (exceptions being those that would require me to alter my sexual preference).
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:05 am to
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For example, most SEC school major traditions happened sporadically, and people decided to keep doing them. For TAMU, I think either they didn't really happen sporadically, or you decided to keep doing EVERYTHING for the purpose of creating new traditions

I've read this multiple times, and I'm still struggling with what you're saying. My apologies … but could you help me out?
If we're only continuing to do everything we've always done, as you say, how is that creating new traditions, "just because?"

This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 10:06 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:07 am to
quote:

most SEC school major traditions happened sporadically, and people decided to keep doing them. For TAMU, I think either they didn't really happen sporadically, or you decided to keep doing EVERYTHING for the purpose of creating new traditions.


You would be incorrect.

And I think you mean "spontaneously"
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:08 am to
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For TAMU, I think either they didn't really happen sporadically, or you decided to keep doing EVERYTHING for the purpose of creating new traditions

you posted a bunch again without mentioning a single specific thing. Are you completely unable to give an example of something you think is forced?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:10 am to
quote:

ve read this multiple times, and I'm still struggling with what you're saying. My apologies … but could you help me out?
If we're only continuing to do everything we've always done, as you say, how is that creating new traditions, "just because?"


Seems self-explanatory to me. You can disagree, but I don't know why it is confusing. For example, at Auburn, we may have picked 10 things over the course of 150 years to do regularly, and hence they've become traditions. At TAMU, it seems you've selected 150 things to do over the past 125 years to become traditions. My belief is that TAMU has done this with posterity in mind.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:12 am to
But you've already stated you base that belief on nothing. If you "don't know enough about TAMU" to pick something in particular, then you clearly are just talking out of your arse. You may be best just letting it go, especially in a thread about Taps.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:14 am to
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But you've already stated you base that belief on nothing. If you "don't know enough about TAMU" to pick something in particular, then you clearly are just talking out of your arse. You may be best just letting it go, especially in a thread about Taps.


Look several posts up, genius.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:14 am to
Here
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:15 am to
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At TAMU, it seems you've selected 150 things to do over the past 125 years to become traditions. My belief is that TAMU has done this with posterity in mind.


All you're really saying is you think many of our traditions are vapid because there's a lot of them.

If you want to be taken seriously on this topic, it would help if you gave us some examples of traditions you think are empty.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:16 am to
So you're suggesting that A&M entirely, as an institution, decided to honor it's fallen students in order to add another tradition to the list?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79143 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:17 am to
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All you're really saying is you think many of our traditions are vapid because there's a lot of them.


I've never said your traditions are empty. Creating traditions on purpose doesn't mean they're not substantive. I was serious when I said I like and appreciate TAMU traditions, don't be defensive.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44007 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:17 am to
I'm not disagreeing with you; I just didn't understand what you were saying. What was "self-explanatory" to you wasn't clear to me. Anyway, I wasn't criticizing you; I was just asking for clarification (which you provided--thank you).

With the exception of a few meaningless, modern shenanigans (e.g., christening/dunking the Aggie Ring, Maroon Out, Big Event, etc.), we didn't select our traditions; they emerged over time. And they were never abandoned.

Never was there an intentional, group vote of hundreds of thousands of Ags to continue a tradition, simply to continue it.

It's different. I get it. To each his own.
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