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re: Tom speaks to CBS.

Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:09 am to
Posted by northalabamacracker
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:09 am to
It was very entertaining when he got so mad he threatened some ones life.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:10 am to
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He really is a good poster when he doesn't have his ITAT marching orders in hand. Guys like him from any fan base were good entertainment years ago, now they're just board killers.


I agree completely. What's strange is he has the ability to be completely rational at times.

And then these threads happen and I guess he just can't help himself.
This post was edited on 1/17/14 at 10:11 am
Posted by wdeinttown
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:14 am to






A.J. is a swell guy to sign all of this stuff for free!
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
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6466 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:15 am to
Almost never. He is nothing more than a woman hating Troll. Just ask Ice cold.
Posted by Meno's Paradox
Member since Apr 2013
453 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:24 am to
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A.J. is a swell guy to sign all of this stuff for free!


Just like Manziel, huh?

Does AJ have any eligibility remaining? Do we know when those photos were taken?

Damn this board turns into a massive troll/flame fest so quickly. Everyone assumes everyone else is cheating, but NOT their team. riiiiight.
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
268 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:26 am to
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A.J. is a swell guy to sign all of this stuff for free
!

Just a sweet guy. And has no inkling that things he's signing are going to be sold.

It sure does look like he's IN the store too. I thought the bammers said if they signed things OUTSIDE the store, it was okay but that they never signed things IN the store -- since that's a violation.
Posted by wdeinttown
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:26 am to
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Everyone assumes everyone else is cheating, but NOT their team. riiiiight.


My team probably cheated between the years 2009-2012. Fortunately, they got away with it.
Posted by Meno's Paradox
Member since Apr 2013
453 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:34 am to
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My team probably cheated between the years 2009-2012. Fortunately, they got away with it.


My point is all teams have some issues. The thing that I dont understand is, why are some fans seemingly getting excited about this stuff with Bama?

If I read correctly, Bama disassociated the guy and sent a cease and desist letter to him. The school has done all required by NCAA.

Some players may face suspensions over their actions, but all that we've seen thus far isn't an institutional problem, so it's not like we'll see Bama on probation over it.
Posted by Broken Coyote
Seated. Facing forward
Member since Dec 2010
3050 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:37 am to
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that guy may single handedly bring down the bama program, I pray each day.


Fify. Say what you mean.
This post was edited on 1/17/14 at 10:39 am
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:39 am to
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Do we know when those photos were taken?


2nd photo has a post date of 6/24/13. Unless it's not McCarron signing stuff in that photo, then he still was eligible when those were taken.
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
268 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 11:03 am to
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My point is all teams have some issues. The thing that I dont understand is, why are some fans seemingly getting excited about this stuff with Bama?

If I read correctly, Bama disassociated the guy and sent a cease and desist letter to him. The school has done all required by NCAA.

Some players may face suspensions over their actions, but all that we've seen thus far isn't an institutional problem, so it's not like we'll see Bama on probation over it.


I'm not sure it's excitement - but it's just wanting the same treatment for all programs. Other programs are at least investigated over seeming violations. Why can bammer just investigate themselves? When the NCAA camps out and at least tries to find violations, then other fans will be more understanding.

It does seem like an LOIC if the staff was not able to keep the same thing from happening again. And if nothing was wrong, why was the guy disassociated in the first place. These players had to be aware that this was not a good place to be - or I assume they were told this.

Sorry that you think you folks can be outraged about other programs that go on probation or get investigated and expect others to just sweep this under the rug and not talk about it.
Posted by Meno's Paradox
Member since Apr 2013
453 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 11:09 am to
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Why can bammer just investigate themselves?

NCAA allows for internal investigations at early stages for all schools. They reserve right to investigate further if they findings are insufficient. they may investigate Bama over this. We don't know. The story is only a few days old.

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Sorry that you think you folks can be outraged about other programs that go on probation or get investigated and expect others to just sweep this under the rug and not talk about it.

Not my issue at all. You're missing the point. Bama has been on probation a ton over the past couple of decades. Everyone teases them about it. I don't see them getting some preferential treatment.

My point is that some LSU fans and AU fans seem more concerned with finding something to bring Bama down than we do with focusing on the good things in our own programs.

Did Manziel play better b/c he got cash for autographs? If Bama players are guilty of the same, then they'll get suspended for some amount of time and they'll deserve it. I side with the athletes, though. I rarely want the athletes punished and I only want a school punished if the school is doing something to create a competitive advantage. I just don't see Bama doing that in this case.
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
268 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 11:23 am to
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My point is that some LSU fans and AU fans seem more concerned with finding something to bring Bama down than we do with focusing on the good things in our own programs.


Fans can certainly appreciate the good things about their school while at the same time wanting fair treatment.

If AU or LSU had a booster with an autograph business where players seemed to hang out incessantly, don't tell me you would not want that checked out.

And yes, if a program allows what seems to be going on to go on, then it is an unfair advantage. If players being recruited know that they will be able to get extra money from any avenue - textbooks, autographs, cars - that is an incentive to go to said school. And if it is flaunted and no one ever bothers to check on it, it makes other fan bases angry.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 11:28 am to
Pretty much spot on.
Posted by Meno's Paradox
Member since Apr 2013
453 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 11:32 am to
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If AU or LSU had a booster with an autograph business where players seemed to hang out incessantly, don't tell me you would not want that checked out.


Uh, perhaps you didn't pay close enough attn to my post.

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My point is that some LSU fans and AU fans seem more concerned with finding something to bring Bama down than we do with focusing on the good things in our own programs.


Not a Bama guy, pal. Just not so obsessed with it that I can't see beyond the ridiculousness of it all. There was so much smoke around Cam Newton, but no proof. There was so much smoke around Manziel, but no proof. There is a ton of smoke around this guy, but no proof that he's paid anyone. That's part of my point. We can't be so hypocritical.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
5613 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 12:15 pm to
I really don't like the access this guy has to the team. Stick your heads in the sand if you want but nobody, and I do mean nobody, players parents included, should have this much access to the players, outside of their own kids. You can spare me the "they have graduated" crap as well. There have been many, many photos of him and his store with current players. This guy needs to fall up some stairs.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
7989 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 12:22 pm to
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There was so much smoke around Cam Newton, but no proof. There was so much smoke around Manziel, but no proof. There is a ton of smoke around this guy, but no proof that he's paid anyone. That's part of my point. We can't be so hypocritical.


There was a 2 year investigation on the Cam Newton ordeal. That's how it was decided there was no "proof." How did they decide the was no "proof" in T-town menswear?
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
6466 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 12:32 pm to
But their was proof that Cams father did try to sell him on the auction block which made him ineligible according to SEC rules, hence the world wide out cry for justice.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 12:35 pm to
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made him ineligible according to SEC rules,


and was dealt with according to past precedent in the SEC
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 3:14 pm to
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made him ineligible according to SEC rules,
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and was dealt with according to past precedent in the SEC
Kudo's to good lawyers. All any program needs to do is employ a killer law firm that specializes in NCAA issues, and your program is golden.

Lawyers have scared the shite out of the NCAA and rendered them impotent.

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