re: tOfficial "lol at USCjr.'s football history"

I figure I'll add a little bit to this. The Gamecocks actually won their first ACC football title in 1965, which they shared with Duke. Shortly after that 1965 Paul Dietzel accepted the head coaching job and discovered that an academically ineligible player was allowed to play that season and self reported it to the ACC. The ACC then stripped both SCar and Duke and awarded the title to Clemson, because every team that SCar beat was awarded an automatic conference W. That one imaginary win bumped Clemson past Duke. How fricked up is that? No wonder Dietzel wanted out of the ACC.

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I figure I'll ad a little bit to this. The Gamecocks actually won their first ACC football title in 1965, which they shared with Duke. Shortly after that 1965 Paul Dietzel accepted the head coaching job and discovered that an academically ineligible player was allowed to play that season and self reported it to the ACC. The ACC then stripped both SCar and Duke and awarded the title to Clemson, because every team that SCar beat was awarded an automatic conference W. That one imaginary win bumped Clemson past Duke. How fricked up is that? No wonder Dietzel wanted out of the ACC.

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Damn I've never heard that. Crazy that every team they beat was actually awarded with a win.

I posted a thread the other day that we should have a SoCon title with Duke in 1933 but neither school nor the SoCon recognizes it. I guess its because it was the year that so many schools left to form the SEC.

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which included a perfect 3–0 Southern Conference campaign in 1933. The undefeated conference record earned the Gamecocks the Southern Conference Co-Championship, along with Duke.[5] However, this championship is currently not recognized by either the school[6] or the Southern Conference.[7] Laval is the only South Carolina football coach to have produced seven consecutive winning seasons.

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From wiki. I just can't believe that the conference itself wouldn't recognize a champion of any kind.

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-We were below .500 in win % all-time until just a few years ago. (577-546-44 as it stands now)

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USC was above .500 for decades, just not that far above .500. It took two years going 1-21, crossing over the Scott and Holtz eras, to get us to fall under .500. When Spurrier took over in 2005, USC's all-time record was 500-507-44.

USC had roller-coastered up and down the .500 line prior to that in preceding eras: Scott took over a 444-438 record, and Woods took over a 419-411 all-time record. Joe Morrison became head coach over a program that was 380-383, thanks to Richard Bell. Before Bell, Jim Carlen took over a 331-340 program from Dietzel and left it at 376-376 all-time.

Dietzel (42-53) took over a 289-287 program, and Warren Bass (17-29) took over a 272-258 program. USC was an above-.500 program all the way back to Sol Metzger, who became HC in 1920 of a 75-82 program and went 26-18 in 5 years to boost the all-time record to 101-100 when he retired. So USC was basically at or above (mostly above) .500 all the the way until Coach Dietzel retired after 1974, 50 years later....

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This would be an outstanding thread except for one small detail:

None of us give a rat's arse about you.

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Yet you took the time out of your life to post in this thread that did not interest you?
I'm grateful that I'm not associated with posters like you in my fanbase.

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Thanks, I'd be quite flattered, except for the fact that I don't give a rat's arse about you.

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Yet, you bothered to respond again.
Is DrJimmyRustle123 around?
You should consult him, so he can cure you.

To my knowledge Clemson got to keep all of their titles. I did forget that Georgia Tech was stripped of their 2009 title and UNC recently chose to forfeit games because of their fraud scandal. My bad.

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To my knowledge Clemson got to keep all of their titles. I did forget that Georgia Tech was stripped of their 2009 title and UNC recently chose to forfeit games because of their fraud scandal. My bad.

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They got to keep their ACC title in 82 despite getting a bowl ban near the end of the season.

Well, it's a good thing recruits don't usually remember past 4or5 years. Y'all have a solid program now and don't appear to be going away anytime soon.

USC's football history is essentially the present - having said that there's no barrier to them succeeding at a very high level in the future. Their in state rival suffers from competing in an inferior conference and has lately been losing the heads up games.