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re: Todd Gurley respect

Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by Gotta have DeZeier
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:54 pm to
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You would deny a fact?


How many games was Gurley healthy? One maybe two.

And he single-handedly beat the GA Tech. I have never seen a RB run the ball the way he was at the end of that game. Everyone in the country knew where the ball was going and he just couldnt be stopped.
Posted by Gotta have DeZeier
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:55 pm to
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pre-season All-SEC teams.


Should be done away with. Wasnt Javen Snead preseason ALL SEC? Thanks for playing.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:59 pm to
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Yes, yes I do.


So why are you posting on a message board? Shouldn't you have a college job by now?
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 1:01 pm to
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How many games was Gurley healthy? One maybe two.


It's not Yeldon's fault Gurley can't stay healthy. His style isn't conducive to a long term career anyway. You think his injury problems won't follow him to the NFL?

Besides, that's why YPC is a stat. And Gurley and Yeldon both have the same career YPC.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 1:02 pm to
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Should be done away with. Wasnt Javen Snead preseason ALL SEC? Thanks for playing.


Well if we are only trusting post-season All-Americam teams, Tre Mason is better than Todd Gurley. Of course, I don't believe that, but if we use your logic, that's the conclusion we come to.
Posted by Gotta have DeZeier
Turner Field
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 1:03 pm to
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Besides, that's why YPC is a stat. And Gurley and Yeldon both have the same career YPC.


Yeah, but TG3 would run over Chuck Norris. Add that to the list of things Yeldon couldnt do.
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 1:05 pm
Posted by Gotta have DeZeier
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 1:04 pm to
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Tre Mason is better than Todd Gurley


No one can deny he had a better year. He had more games, touches and etc. But he had a better year.
Posted by dhuck20
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 1:07 pm to
It's really like arguing with a brick wall. No one needs to bother. Thanks for derailing the thread, Doc. Now go pull up some near meaningless stat that TJ is a little better in and post a response thread so you can feel better about it.
Posted by Gotta have DeZeier
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 1:08 pm to
Thats why I brought up Chuck Norris. I realized it. I am never on here. But its a Friday and I am in sales.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 1:09 pm to
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Yeldon has almost identical career stats to Gurley


Timmy Chang had far better stats then AJ Mcarron.

I guess if the game's on the line you'd take ol timmy eh?
Posted by gatorhata9
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 1:09 pm to
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Now go pull up some near meaningless stat that TJ is a little better in and post a response thread so you can feel better about it.


Yes. Do this.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 1:13 pm to
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So why are you posting on a message board? Shouldn't you have a college job by now?




Because it's more fun to watch you fumble (not a Yeldon pun, I swear) around. It shouldn't shock anyone that coaches and talking heads are picking a decent system player on a run-first team with a track record of O-line success. Put Yeldon on a UGA's roster and he doesn't sniff those stats or accolades. Put Gurley on Bama's roster and he wins the heisman. I'll say it again, Yeldon is an average SEC starter, elite relative to the rest of college football, but given the pedigree of Bama and SEC backs he'll be forgotten pretty quickly. Gurley is elite in every sense of the word.
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 2:11 pm to
When watching Todd Gurley play, one realizes that in addition to all the power, speed, cutting ability, the one constant need is balance, and while it can be worked on, it is also just a natural talent. I remember the TV guys were showing Gurley hopping cones on one foot pre game to LSU and thinking, damn, I would sprain an ankle if that was me. Just watch the play where the USCe D guy pulls his helmet off via the face mask. The most impressive thing about that is that Gurley didn't somehow fall. I mean seriously, how many how there wouldn't have fallen at that point?

I truly think balance is the thing that separates the very athletic, good backs from the great ones. Marshall is great. I love him, but watch how many times he is easily tripped up by a grab at his feet. That is the difference between the two.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 2:46 pm to
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I honestly don't think there is a huge difference outside of the fumbles.


Taken as you said it, then, wouldn't you say Gurley is the better back, then? if they are the same other than fumbles...and Yeldon is the on fumbling at critical times, doesn't that make Gurley the better back? How important are the fumbles, in your opinion, that Yeldon has made?

Would you say they come at critical times and hurt Alabama?

Or would you say they don't hurt Alabama at all and they do not come at critical times?

That should help you decide which is the better back, too.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 2:48 pm to
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Besides, that's why YPC is a stat. And Gurley and Yeldon both have the same career YPC.


All things being equal....and yeldon fumbling at key times in games...you don't think that makes Gurley the better back?
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7040 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:32 pm to
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TJ Yeldon's better.


No he isn't. Todd Gurley has been the best back in CFB since his Freshman season.
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:36 pm to
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Gurley probably is better than Davis, but it is real close .. both are better than Yeldon.

To me Yeldon has that where did he go ablility, which is good... but Gurley & Davis, both have that "dang he's running right at me stuff"


Behind the same line I do agree that Gurley would probably be better than Davis by a bit. But I think Davis has a better year simply because of their respective O-lines.

They are 1-2 in the league in whichever order. Yeldon isn't even the best back on his own team, not to mention the SEC. I am looking forward to what Fournette does this year, though. His tape looked amazing, but I'm not going to put him ahead of two established SEC backs simply on promise alone.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:04 pm to
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They are 1-2 in the league in whichever order. Yeldon isn't even the best back on his own team, not to mention the SEC. I am looking forward to what Fournette does this year, though. His tape looked amazing, but I'm not going to put him ahead of two established SEC backs simply on promise alone.


I love when people say this. Do you know something Saban doesn't? Do you think he gives a shite about seniority or playing favorites?
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:12 pm to
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I love when people say this. Do you know something Saban doesn't? Do you think he gives a shite about seniority or playing favorites?


I would imagine I know many things Saban doesn't... same as anyone. Granted, I should have put "IMO" in there somewhere. In my opinion, Yeldon is not the best back on his own team. I think Henry is better now and will show it in time.

Does my opinion change your depth chart one iota? No. Is my opinion set in stone? No. Yeldon could have an amazing year and put all doubt, even mine to rest. But, right now...

Thanks for thinking so highly of my opinion on a random internet sight to take offense at it, though.
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 4:15 pm
Posted by jrtplaya21
Member since Jan 2013
3164 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:19 pm to
Gurley would start on any team in America. I can not say that about any other back. He's in a completely different league.
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