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re: Those are some shady tactics, Tennessee
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:16 am to ForeverGator
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:16 am to ForeverGator
I don't see the problem. You either trust the coach or you don't. If you don't get a scholarship, you transfer somewhere else without having to sit out.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:29 pm to ForeverGator
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It is worse than Saban and greyshirting, that is for sure.
How is it worse than greyshirting? Kid gets to play right away and get the scholarship the instant he steps on campus.
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I don't see the problem. You either trust the coach or you don't. If you don't get a scholarship, you transfer somewhere else without having to sit out.
Gets it.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:54 pm to Volatile
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How is it worse than greyshirting? Kid gets to play right away and get the scholarship the instant he steps on campus.
It's not, but that's what you would say when you have literally no clue what the frick you're talking about.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:56 pm to ForeverGator
It's like Kiffin left slime on the place and it got all over Butch and Co.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 2:02 pm to Pocket Kingz
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pretty obvious that Jones is all in on recruiting. Now we will see if they can coach the talent. I have my doubts.
I predict that this practice will be disallowed by next offseason. Its a ponzi scheme that completely undermines the idea of a hard 25.
True dat. They will make it impossible to do, or coaches will start getting the treatment that Petrino got after he pulled a scholly offer a couple days before signing day.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 2:18 pm to LOCO5150
Tennessee has exactly 85 scholarship players including these two blue shirts right now.
The only reason we have to blue shirt them was to get past the 25 initial counter limit from the SEC and we are forward counting them to next years class when we won't have the room in the 85 limit to take a full class anyway.
It is a great job by Butch to maximize our roster within the rules and absolutely zero current players have to be processed because of it.
*Yes I know about 6 or so have already left*
SRs-14 (42 4* or above)
WR - Pig Howard - 2012 - 4*
WR - Jonathon Johnson - 2013 - 3*
WR - Von Pearson - 2014 - 4*
TE - Alex Ellis - Walk On
C - Mack Crowder - 2011 - 3*
OG - Marcus Jackson - 2011 - 4*
OT - Kyler Kerbyson - 2011 - 3*
DT - Trevarris Saulsberry - 2011 - 3*
DT - Owen Williams - 2014 - 3*
DE/LB - Curt Maggitt - 2011 - 4*
D/LB - Chris Weathered - 2014 - 4*
S - Brian Randolph - 2011 - 3*
S - LaDarrell McNeil - 2012 - 4*
LS - Matt Giampana - Walk On
JRs-17 (35% 4* or above)
QB - Josh Dobbs - 2013 - 4*
WR - Marquez North - 2013 - 4*
WR - Jason Croom - 2012 - 4*
WR - Cody Blanc - 2012 - 2*
OT - Dontavious Blair - 2014 - 4*
OG - Dylan Weisman - 2013 - 3*
DT - Danny O'Brien - 2012 - 4*
DE - Corey Vereen - 2013 - 3*
DE - Latroy Lewis - 2012 - 3*
MLB - Kenny Bynum - 2012 - 3*
OLB - Justin King - 2012 - 3*
OLB - Jalen Reeves Maybin - 2013 - 4*
CB - Devaun Swafford - 2013 - 3*
CB - Malik Foreman - 2013 - 3*
CB - Cam Sutton - 2013 - 3*
S - Lemond Johnson - 2013 - 3*
K - George Bullock - 2012 - 2*
SO's-21 (48% 4* or above)
RB - Jalen Hurd - 2014 - 5*
RB - Alvin Kamara - 2015 - 5*
WR - Josh Malone - 2014 - 5*
WR - Josh Smith - 2013 - 3*
TE - AJ Branisiel - 2013 - 3*
TE - Ethan Wolf - 2014 - 3*
OG - Jashaun Robertson - 2014 - 3*
OT - Brett Kendrick - 2013 - 3*
OT - Austin Sanders - 2013 - 4*
C - Coleman Thomas - 2014 - 3*
DE - Dimaraya Mixon - 2014 - 3*
DE - Derek Barnett - 2014 - 4*
DT - Kendal Vickers - 2013 - 3*
OLB - Cortez McDowell - 2014 - 4*
OLB - Elliot Berry - 2014 - 3*
MLB - Jakob Johnson - 2014 - 3*
CB - Rashaan Gaulden - 2014 - 4*
CB - Emmanuel Moseley - 2014 - 3*
CB - Justin Martin - 2015 - 4*
S - Evan Berry - 2014 - 4*
S - Todd Kelly Jr - 2014 - 4*
K - Aaron Medley - 2014 - 3*
FR-32 (53% 4* or above)
QB – Jauan Jennings – 2015 – 4*
QB – Quentin Dormandy – 2015 – 4*
QB – Sheriron Jones – 2015 – 4*
RB – John Kelly – 2015 – 3*
RB – Joc Bruce – 2015 – 3*
WR - Preston Williams - 2015 - 5*
WR - Vincent Perry - 2015 - 3*
TE - Neiko Creamer - 2014 - 3*
TE - Kyle Oliver - 2015 - 3*
OG - Charles Mosley - 2014 - 3*
OG - Ray Raulerson - 2014 - 3*
OT - Jack Jones - 2015 - 4*
OT - Chance Hall - 2015 - 3*
OT - Venzell Boulware - 2015 - 4*
OT - Drew Richmond*** - 2015 - 5*
OG - Zach Stewart - 2015 - 4*
DT - Shy Tuttle - 2015 - 4*
DT- Kahlil McKenzie - 2015 - 5*
DT - Quay Picou - 2015 - 3*
DE - Darrell Taylor - 2015 - 4*
DE - Andrew Butcher - 2015 - 4*
DE - Kyle Phillips - 2015 - 5*
MLB - Gavin Bryant - 2014 - 3*
MLB - Darrin Kirkland Jr - 2015 - 4*
OLB - Dillon Bates - 2014 - 4*
OLB - Quart'e Sapp - 2015 - 4*
OLB - Austin Smith - 2015 - 3*
CB - Darrell Miller - 2015 - 3*
CB - Micah Abernathy - 2015 - 4*
S- Stephen Griffin - 2015 - 3*
P - Tommy Townsend - 2015 - 3*
LS - Riley Lovingwood - 2015 2*
46% 4* or above
The only reason we have to blue shirt them was to get past the 25 initial counter limit from the SEC and we are forward counting them to next years class when we won't have the room in the 85 limit to take a full class anyway.
It is a great job by Butch to maximize our roster within the rules and absolutely zero current players have to be processed because of it.
*Yes I know about 6 or so have already left*
SRs-14 (42 4* or above)
WR - Pig Howard - 2012 - 4*
WR - Jonathon Johnson - 2013 - 3*
WR - Von Pearson - 2014 - 4*
TE - Alex Ellis - Walk On
C - Mack Crowder - 2011 - 3*
OG - Marcus Jackson - 2011 - 4*
OT - Kyler Kerbyson - 2011 - 3*
DT - Trevarris Saulsberry - 2011 - 3*
DT - Owen Williams - 2014 - 3*
DE/LB - Curt Maggitt - 2011 - 4*
D/LB - Chris Weathered - 2014 - 4*
S - Brian Randolph - 2011 - 3*
S - LaDarrell McNeil - 2012 - 4*
LS - Matt Giampana - Walk On
JRs-17 (35% 4* or above)
QB - Josh Dobbs - 2013 - 4*
WR - Marquez North - 2013 - 4*
WR - Jason Croom - 2012 - 4*
WR - Cody Blanc - 2012 - 2*
OT - Dontavious Blair - 2014 - 4*
OG - Dylan Weisman - 2013 - 3*
DT - Danny O'Brien - 2012 - 4*
DE - Corey Vereen - 2013 - 3*
DE - Latroy Lewis - 2012 - 3*
MLB - Kenny Bynum - 2012 - 3*
OLB - Justin King - 2012 - 3*
OLB - Jalen Reeves Maybin - 2013 - 4*
CB - Devaun Swafford - 2013 - 3*
CB - Malik Foreman - 2013 - 3*
CB - Cam Sutton - 2013 - 3*
S - Lemond Johnson - 2013 - 3*
K - George Bullock - 2012 - 2*
SO's-21 (48% 4* or above)
RB - Jalen Hurd - 2014 - 5*
RB - Alvin Kamara - 2015 - 5*
WR - Josh Malone - 2014 - 5*
WR - Josh Smith - 2013 - 3*
TE - AJ Branisiel - 2013 - 3*
TE - Ethan Wolf - 2014 - 3*
OG - Jashaun Robertson - 2014 - 3*
OT - Brett Kendrick - 2013 - 3*
OT - Austin Sanders - 2013 - 4*
C - Coleman Thomas - 2014 - 3*
DE - Dimaraya Mixon - 2014 - 3*
DE - Derek Barnett - 2014 - 4*
DT - Kendal Vickers - 2013 - 3*
OLB - Cortez McDowell - 2014 - 4*
OLB - Elliot Berry - 2014 - 3*
MLB - Jakob Johnson - 2014 - 3*
CB - Rashaan Gaulden - 2014 - 4*
CB - Emmanuel Moseley - 2014 - 3*
CB - Justin Martin - 2015 - 4*
S - Evan Berry - 2014 - 4*
S - Todd Kelly Jr - 2014 - 4*
K - Aaron Medley - 2014 - 3*
FR-32 (53% 4* or above)
QB – Jauan Jennings – 2015 – 4*
QB – Quentin Dormandy – 2015 – 4*
QB – Sheriron Jones – 2015 – 4*
RB – John Kelly – 2015 – 3*
RB – Joc Bruce – 2015 – 3*
WR - Preston Williams - 2015 - 5*
WR - Vincent Perry - 2015 - 3*
TE - Neiko Creamer - 2014 - 3*
TE - Kyle Oliver - 2015 - 3*
OG - Charles Mosley - 2014 - 3*
OG - Ray Raulerson - 2014 - 3*
OT - Jack Jones - 2015 - 4*
OT - Chance Hall - 2015 - 3*
OT - Venzell Boulware - 2015 - 4*
OT - Drew Richmond*** - 2015 - 5*
OG - Zach Stewart - 2015 - 4*
DT - Shy Tuttle - 2015 - 4*
DT- Kahlil McKenzie - 2015 - 5*
DT - Quay Picou - 2015 - 3*
DE - Darrell Taylor - 2015 - 4*
DE - Andrew Butcher - 2015 - 4*
DE - Kyle Phillips - 2015 - 5*
MLB - Gavin Bryant - 2014 - 3*
MLB - Darrin Kirkland Jr - 2015 - 4*
OLB - Dillon Bates - 2014 - 4*
OLB - Quart'e Sapp - 2015 - 4*
OLB - Austin Smith - 2015 - 3*
CB - Darrell Miller - 2015 - 3*
CB - Micah Abernathy - 2015 - 4*
S- Stephen Griffin - 2015 - 3*
P - Tommy Townsend - 2015 - 3*
LS - Riley Lovingwood - 2015 2*
46% 4* or above
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 2/5/15 at 2:22 pm to ForeverGator
1 shirt 2 shirt, greenshirt blueshirt.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 2:25 pm to Othello
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1 shirt 2 shirt, greenshirt blueshirt.
We shirt, they shirt, redshirt, greyshirt.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 2:28 pm to Ericvol2096
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Ericvol2096
Great post, but don't go bringing facts into this.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 4:56 pm to ForeverGator
Yeah....Tennessee really over-signed.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:08 pm to SavageOrangeJug
I didn't read this one, but hats off to Butch for signing 61 in two years. Clearly didn't hurt his class rankings. I actually like Butch, but he needs to do something in the next two years like winning 16 or more games or he should be gone. If he doesn't the next coach will clearly have more talent to start with than Butch did.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:13 pm to SavageOrangeJug
In related news, Jashon Robertson was a blueshirt last year. Turned out to be freshman All SEC. Yeah, it really hurt him
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