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re: This is the same reason I pulled for USC,UK,UT,AU,LSU,OM,UF,UA
Posted on 1/7/10 at 8:49 am to Skeeter 79
Posted on 1/7/10 at 8:49 am to Skeeter 79
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a 1-loss SEC champ would not be a lock if there were an undefeated Texas, Ohio State, Oklahoma, USC, etc
Refresh my memory when the last time this situation occurred?
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and this theory didnt work for Auburn after LSU won in 2003
But it has worked every year since Auburn
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Posted on 1/7/10 at 8:50 am to Klaus
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All I am saying is that a Bama win tonight will continue to guarantee that the SEC Champion will be a lock to play for the BCSNCG
But it won't, I can't help if you can't see that the results of this game in no way impacts the overall quality of the SEC and that is all that matters.
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I can't help the fact that you are unable to comprehend why this is.
I can't comprehend something that is not true. I know why you and so many others thing its true, that doesn't mean its anything more than a coincidence.
If Alabama loses, the view of Saban and Alabama will not change, they will still be ranked very high next year and will play for the title if they are one of top 2 teams.
Before someone brings up Auburn, they wre 7-5 in 2003, USC and OU finished in the top 3 in 2003. That and a crappy schedule are why Auburn didn't play in the title game.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 8:52 am to H-Town Tiger
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If Alabama loses, the view of Saban and Alabama will not change, they will still be ranked very high next year and will play for the title if they are one of top 2 teams.
And I bet a national sportswriter says the SEC wasn't as tough as we thought. It's a lot about perception.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 8:53 am to Klaus
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But it has worked every year since Auburn
It has worked because the SEC was better during the 06,07,08 seasons than it was in 04.
USC smaking OU did not make people view the Pac 10 as a dominant conference, they just view USC as a great team.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:00 am to H-Town Tiger
There are a ton of sportswriters, analysts, and voters outside of the South that cannot stand the SEC and all of the hype the conference gets. Bama losing will legitimize their argument that the SEC is overrated, and will give them a reason to vote in another team ahead of an SEC team next season.
I guess not everyone sees eye to eye on this, but i thought this was pretty much understood among the SEC faithful.
I guess not everyone sees eye to eye on this, but i thought this was pretty much understood among the SEC faithful.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:10 am to spslayto
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And I bet a national sportswriter says the SEC wasn't as tough as we thought
man some of you really have an inferiority complex, who cares if a sports writer somewhere says the SEC is over rated, they say that ALL THE frickING TIME! At the end of the day they still think the SEC is the best conference.
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It's a lot about perception.
and the preception will not change based on 1 game and its not as important as the overall results.
The fact/perception was the Big 12 was down this year, did that keep Texas out of the title game?
This post was edited on 1/7/10 at 9:14 am
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:14 am to Klaus
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will give them a reason to vote in another team ahead of an SEC team next season
Its all in your head man, the 2010 vote will be based on 2010. Not every sports write has a vote in the AP poll, which BTW has not impact on the BCS. The coaches and SID's that vote in the coaches poll are not going to hold a Bama loss to Texas against LSU or florida just like they did not hold OU's loss against Texas.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:15 am to H-Town Tiger
It's not like you have anything to worry about anyway, LSU isn't even going to crack the top 10 next year.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:15 am to Klaus
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Refresh my memory when the last time this situation occurred?
2005
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:16 am to H-Town Tiger
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The fact/perception was the Big 12 was down this year, did that keep Texas out of the title game?
No, but here is where you miss the point.
Next season. USC, Texas, and LSU have the same record after their final games. All 3 are conference champs.
Who plays?
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:16 am to ACL11190
quote:probably not
It's not like you have anything to worry about anyway, LSU isn't even going to crack the top 10 next year
but if we did go 12-1 our chances of making the BCS CG will not be impacted if Texas wins.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:18 am to H-Town Tiger
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The fact/perception was the Big 12 was down this year, did that keep Texas out of the title game?
great point. if there is an undefeated SEC team next year, they wouldnt get left out regardless of the outcome of tonites game. just because Bama may win it tonite doesnt mean the SEC is the best, it means bama is the best team.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:18 am to H-Town Tiger
I'm still not convinced you would have gone in 2007 if you were in the Pac-10 or the ACC.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:18 am to H-Town Tiger
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probably not but if we did go 12-1 our chances of making the BCS CG will not be impacted if Texas wins.
If Alabama loses and there's a 12-1 Texas sitting there next year, it might.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:22 am to BamaChick
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Next season. USC, Texas, and LSU have the same record after their final games. All 3 are conference champs.
Who plays?
that depends on SOS, the 2010 computer rankings what their records are, how those 3 teams played over the course of the 2010 season etc, not what happend in the 2009 NCG
LSU winning 2 BCS CG in the last decade helps our precption far more than if Bama wins. Are you guys really saying that the if Bama loses everyone will view the SEC like the ACC? or that all of a sudden they will think the Big 10 is better? Come on, get real.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:23 am to H-Town Tiger
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Its all in your head man
All I can say is that Toby Gerhart finished a very close 2nd in the Heisman this year. Do you really think he was the second best player in college football? The SEC is not bigger than college football, and the voters will be more than happy to remind us of that if we give them the right ammunition.
If the SEC wins tonight, they aren't getting left out next season. If Bama loses, it definitely increases the chances. Plain and simple.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:24 am to ACL11190
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I'm still not convinced you would have gone in 2007 if you were in the Pac-10 or the ACC.
right everyone thought the sEC was the best in 2007, not because Florida won in 2006, but because there were 2 top 10 and what 3 other top 25 teams.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:25 am to H-Town Tiger
The SEC has a better OOC record this year than they did in 2007.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:26 am to H-Town Tiger
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that depends on SOS, the 2010 computer rankings what their records are, how those 3 teams played over the course of the 2010 season etc
So I see you completely discount the human factor that goes into BCS rankings.
Don't get me wrong - I could give a flying flip who roots for Alabama. Y'all have been rooting for our opponents all season, hasn't mattered yet.
But some of the inability to admit that a Texas victory tonight tarnishes the SEC's automatic inclusion in the BCSCG when all other things are equal is crazy to me.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 9:26 am to ACL11190
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I'm still not convinced you would have gone in 2007 if you were in the Pac-10 or the ACC.
LSU wouldn't have gone if they were in any other conference.
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