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re: "There are only 2 schools in the SEC that currently do not cheat."
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:27 am to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:27 am to BluegrassBelle
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It's not ever going to make for a "hell of a discussion" when you come with "info" from the family member of a coach of the team you root for that suggests that 12 other SEC members but not them are cheating. No one is going to take that seriously.
Looks like a lively discussion.
What do you make of the coach's tirade to his Mizzou team about how much he hated a certain other SEC coach's cheating and using it to try to get his team fired up? My cousin did not give me a definition of what "cheating" does or doesn't mean, but whatever it means, it would seem a rather ineffective pep talk to fire his team up if he or Mizzou were in fact also cheating in some capacity with their own players. "SCREW THAT COACH WHO DOES FOR HIS PLAYERS...THE SAME THINGS WE DO FOR YOU! SCREW THAT CORRUPT BASTARD! LETS GET HIM!" Wouldn't work very well.
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:28 am to BluegrassBelle
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but how long does he have on his contract?
Two more years. But the buyout isn't high. He's "only" making $1M plus incentives (none of which he hit).
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:28 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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"There are only 2 schools in the SEC that currently do not cheat."
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"Mizzou
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statement by the son of the current head coach of one of Mizzou's sports teams
Well I'll be.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:28 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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statement by the son of the current head coach of one of Mizzou's sports teams, who my cousin happens to be roommates with.
That's quite a mouthful.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:28 am to Rescue22
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We must be some terrible cheaters then.
Yeah, looks like we need a better return for our investment...
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:29 am to the808bass
I am not going to pretend like I have all the answers, nor do I care enough about it to contemplate it much further. I am going to keep buying tickets regardless. The current system is not sustainable though. The amateur tag either needs to be removed or there needs to be much more input from member institutions in enforcing the rules.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:30 am to cas4t
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There is no reason why Jonny Manziel should not have been able to sign a few footballs for some cash. It's the purest form of capitalism.
This has it's own set of problems though.
The only answer is to remove their amateur status. Everything else has pitfalls. Heck, removing their amateur status will lead to them getting paid by bag men openly but at least they can make it so it can be tracked. If all money is not reported and someone is busted, immediate death penalty for a year.
Make it like fricking up on the autobahn. The repercussions are severe.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:30 am to the808bass
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The administration moved quickly. I'm not altogether convinced Franklin didn't participate in some destruction of evidence or obstruction.
The investigation has been pretty thorough. The only thing that ever came out was that Franklin had allegedly contacted the victim, but I think it came out that she was a member of the dance team or something and that Franklin probably was not aware she was the victim yet.
Honestly, if he had done anything illegal like destruction of evidence or obstruction then he would be indicted. Chris Boyd was charged for telling his teammates to delete the video. I can't imagine that if Franklin had done something that it would not have come to light yet.
Even assuming he interfered in some way, it's totally unfair to say that Vanderbilt covered it up. Everyone else within the university did everything by the book and very quickly.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:31 am to cas4t
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There is no reason why Jonny Manziel should not have been able to sign a few footballs for some cash. I
That's not capitalism, really. It could be. But if some booster decided to buy 100 JFF signed balls at $1,000 per football, that would be "legal." It really isn't capitalism.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:31 am to DoreonthePlains
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Even assuming he interfered in some way, it's totally unfair to say that Vanderbilt covered it up. Everyone else within the university did everything by the book and very quickly.
I agree with this.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:31 am to BluegrassBelle
Most teams that recruit fairly well cheat to some degree. I am always amused when fans think their teams can recruit at a high level without cheating, but teams who win more than them have to cheat to recruit at a high level
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:32 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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am not going to pretend like I have all the answers, nor do I care enough about it to contemplate it much further.
Obviously. But your way is the "moral way." But you haven't thought about it for more than 5 seconds.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:35 am to the808bass
Really it's that your smug answers make me not want to respond anymore
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:43 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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your smug answers make me not want to respond anymore
If you jump into a discussion with smugness, don't be surprised if you get smug answers back. And if you jump in with moral certitude, have something more than "I haven't really thought about it that much" as your epistemological foundation.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:54 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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"Mizzou and Vanderbilt." - statement by the son of the current head coach of one of Mizzou's sports teams, who my cousin happens to be roommates with. Take it for what its worth.
Solid source of information. They call this "hearsay"
Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:09 am to the808bass
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The administration moved quickly. I'm not altogether convinced Franklin didn't participate in some destruction of evidence or obstruction.
Yep. And I believe you and I had the same opinion of KA before he was hired.
If we're gonna cheat, note to staff -please pay some good receivers and running backs. Thank you.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:13 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
I got two words for you... Frank Haith.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:14 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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statement by the son of the current head coach of one of Mizzou's sports teams
This...
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one of
...is where i stopped reading
Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:01 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Well, maybe we should start.
Also, I'd trade a natty for probation.
Wouldn't bother me a bit.
Also, I'd trade a natty for probation.
Wouldn't bother me a bit.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:07 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
This may set a downvote record
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