re: the SEC is gonna get mack brown to quit

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I see Texas going independent.

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That would certainly be their demise. Texas sees themselves to be as marketable as Notre Dame. They're not.

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which is why we are slow to add 15 and 16. It'll be a bidding war with big ten for Oklahoma and a final piece.

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No thanks. I like OU and they'd be a good fit but we'll reach a point where adding another good team will start being counter productive.

Here's the thing with Texas: Until they get rid of DeLoss Dodds, it won't matter who their coach is...in any sport. He is quickly becoming the Jerry Jones of college athletics...had some success, but overstepped his bounds and now fails frequently and with reckless abandon.

Let's look at what has happened to Texas since they pushed the Longhorn Network and tried to drag half the Big 12 west:

2010 Football - Most dramatic year to year collapse in the history of the program, and possibly in college sports. Preseason #4 to 5-7. Winless at home in conference play. Bottom of the Big 12 South

2010-2011 Basketball - Epic collapse against Arizona in the 2nd round. Player literally could not count to five.

2011 Baseball - First team to get swept out of the new CWS stadium (ok, they still made the CWS)

2011 Football - 2nd consecutive losing season in conference play. From #10 in the country to unranked. Back to back losses to Baylor for the first time ever. (but at least they beat A&M, right?)

2011-2012 Basketball - Nearly missed making the NCAA tournament after half the team left for the NBA. Needed a miracle win against Iowa State in the conference tournament to make the dance, then got de-pantsed against Cincinnati in round 1.

2012 Baseball - FAILED TO MAKE THE NCAA TOURNAMENT

2012 Football - Raped by Oklahoma. Only team in the new Big 12 to lose to both of the newcomers at home. Humiliated in the Thanksgiving Day game that was supposed to make everyone forget about the A&M game. Texas A&M's success makes this season that much worse. Failed to make the top three in a conference that is deliberately stacked in a way that they would always be #1 or #2.

2012-2013 Basketball - Lost to Division II Chaminade by double digits in the Maui Invitational on National Television. Followed that up by losing to a USC team that can't score. Will get worse.

I am of the opinion that the SEC needs to add schools that will enhance our basketball acumen. That's why N.C. State is the ideal choice. They have an above average football program and a top 25 basketball program.

It's not just Mack Brown. Dodds' idiocy will likely make Brown, Barnes, and Guerrido all quit. I've already explained how those three have fared since Dodds started his nonsense in fall of 2009.

We are definitely indebted to the SEC. The difference between us and the Longhorns is, fun smack talk on here aside, we are grateful. If UT was in this conference they'd refuse to acknowledge anyone but their own self-importance.

This whole thing is a Greek tragedy for them - their tragic fault being their hubris. Had they the dignity to recognise that a college football conference is a business enterprise and the product it sells is its TV contract, which is made stong by the full collective package of teams it fields, they wouldn't have dumped-on and high-handed every other team to the point that national brand Nebraska left, the sole team in the Colorado Springs and Denver markets left, the sole team in the St. Louis and a share of the Kansas City Market left, and their rival left to a better conference, enabling it to eclipse them in national attention just as the coup de grâce fell on them and their pet network failed to launch due to a characteristic ham-fisted overestimation of their own popularity and the simultaneous onset of the decline of their coach.

It's a beautiful thing. Couldn't have happened to a worse bunch of people.

mack doesn't seem like the type of guy who will enjoy this type of atmosphere very much, I think it's about to get rough for him. If they lose to kstate and then maybe lose the bowl game, he has to get to 10 wins next year or they won't stand for it.

It's already rough for Mack right now and will get worse after ksu beats them down this week.

Radio guys all week have been hammering the fact Mack brown is 11-14 in conference games over the past years and his teams have taken on his personality of being soft. That doesn't get it done.

Players were openly saying after getting beat down by ou that practices were not physical and that's why they got beat so bad.

At least one former ut/nfl player has been on radio and said Mack needs to quit.

The longhorn network has not lived up to expectations so far.

The only times ut has been good under Mack they had vy and colt under center and without an all world collegiate qb to back him up Mack hasn't done much.

There have been a long series of recruiting misses.

They had their future head coach on campus but Mack seemed to get in the way of that.

Overall Mack should be on the hot seat, deserves to be on the hot seat, and I think he needs to go this year. But they may give him one more year.

Mack needs at least 10 more years to get his team "Texas good".

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Had they the dignity to recognise that a college football conference is a business enterprise and the product it sells is its TV contract, which is made stong by the full collective package of teams

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How in God's name do people held in such high positions not come to this realization?

There were plenty of freshman business majors on campus who could have recognized that and made better business calculations.