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re: The SEC East in the SEC Championship Game since 2010
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:56 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:56 pm to RollTide1987
The East had a 10-5 advantage after the 2006 game. Hard to believe.
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:03 pm to RollTide1987
Just realized, if you look at the losing teams and do a "if the other team won" scenario every year.... the SEC Championship game becomes the single most damaging thing to the conferences in it's history, screwing it out of a national title berth almost every year. In our reality, the national title wins almost every time (assuming it's not already essentially a playoff game).
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:15 am to Sid E Walker
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The East had a 10-5 advantage after the 2006 game. Hard to believe.
That's when the SEC was balanced. The East had by far the two best programs at that time... Florida and Tennessee... but it also had Vandy and Kentucky... the two worst.
I just don't see the SEC East catching back up with the West anytime soon. Florida and Tennessee were both experiencing their Golden Years simultaneously, which helped make the East look on par with the West. Those two programs may never experience such long, sustained success ever again. I just don't see Florida replicating its 1990-2006 success ever again. Maybe sporadic years of greatness, but not 17 consecutive dominant years.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:39 am to BHMKyle
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I don't see this changing anytime soon either. My honest opinion is that Florida will can McElwain within 2 years. Florida just isn't replacing the talent that Muschamp was able to bring onto campus. Florida has had 15 kids drafted the past two drafts. All were signed by Will Muschamp. A whopping 12 of those 15 kids have been on the defensive side of the ball. Now that Muschamp's defensive players are heading to the NFL, Florida is going to start dropping off. So far, McElwain's best finish in the 247Sports recruiting rankings was #11. That was Muschamp's worst showing in the recruiting rankings. His 2012 class finished #4. His 2013 class finished #3. Mac hasn't come close to a class like that. ------- At the same token, its only a matter of time before Tennessee gets tired of Butch Jones. I just see more turmoil in the years ahead of the SEC East. I don't see it swinging back to even 50/50 anytime soon. The East may win one in the next few years, but I don't see them winning 50% of the time anytime soon.
I agree, and add to that UGA will realize what a colossal mistake is was getting rid of Richt for Skirby.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:11 am to BHMKyle
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I don't see this changing anytime soon either.
My honest opinion is that Florida will can McElwain within 2 years. Florida just isn't replacing the talent that Muschamp was able to bring onto campus.
Florida has had 15 kids drafted the past two drafts. All were signed by Will Muschamp. A whopping 12 of those 15 kids have been on the defensive side of the ball. Now that Muschamp's defensive players are heading to the NFL, Florida is going to start dropping off.
So far, McElwain's best finish in the 247Sports recruiting rankings was #11. That was Muschamp's worst showing in the recruiting rankings. His 2012 class finished #4. His 2013 class finished #3. Mac hasn't come close to a class like that.
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At the same token, its only a matter of time before Tennessee gets tired of Butch Jones.
I just see more turmoil in the years ahead of the SEC East. I don't see it swinging back to even 50/50 anytime soon. The East may win one in the next few years, but I don't see them winning 50% of the time anytime soon.
On the field Mac's recruits have been a lot better than Muschamp's recruits. Muschamp was fired because he won with Urban's players and went 4-8 with his recruits.
Last year, most of the offense was players that Mac recruited. The UF WR class of 2016 was a better group of WRs than all of WRs recruited by Muschamp in 4 years at UF combined.
On defense, when Muschamp's recruits went down with injuries Mac's recruits stepped up and played well. The best example is the 3 freshman LBs against LSU.
That 2012 class you mentioned only had 2 offensive starters, Matt Jones and DJ Humphries. The rest is complete dog shite.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:43 am to BloodSweat&Beers
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On the field Mac's recruits have been a lot better than Muschamp's recruits.
Maybe so. But 15 Muschamp kids being drafted in just 2 years didn't happen because of bad play on the field. Florida's issue as of late... since about 2009... has been loads of talent, but that talent not being able to coalesce well on the field.
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Last year, most of the offense was players that Mac recruited.
Yes. And where did that land their offense?
#79 in Passing Offense
#105 in Total Offense/play
#107 in Scoring Offense
#113 in Rushing Offense
#116 in Total Offense
Florida had one of the worst offenses in the country for a Power 5 program. This is my point. Mac's recruits aren't getting it done. All of Florida's success of the past two seasons can be attributed to their stellar defenses. And those defenses were so good because of Muschamp recruits.
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That 2012 class you mentioned only had 2 offensive starters, Matt Jones and DJ Humphries. The rest is complete dog shite.
I agree that its obvious Muschamp's issues centered around a lack of talent on the offensive side of the ball. But the difference is that his defenses were superb while his offenses were bad.
Mac's defenses have been superb because of Muschamp recruits, and his offenses have been just as dreadful as all of Muschamps. Mac is an offensive guy, and yet we're two complete years into this and he's not improved that unit one bit.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:26 am to craigbiggio
Let us know when A&M isnt dragging up the arse of the West
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:54 am to BHMKyle
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Mac's defenses have been superb because of Muschamp recruits, and his offenses have been just as dreadful as all of Muschamps. Mac is an offensive guy, and yet we're two complete years into this and he's not improved that unit one bit.
Muschamp's defenses were very talented and had some good numbers. However, 4-8 happened. Injuries at QB played a large part of that.
Mac has had QB issues as well with back to back SEC East titles. That is not the end goal of UF football but it is the step in the right direction.
This is the make or break year for Mac. The offense needs to play better and put up more points. To do that there needs to be better production out of the QB. That is what Mac was hired for.
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