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Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:17 pm to m2pro
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:17 pm to m2pro
I cannot speak for CBB, but I have never used the first-person plural in reference to any professional sports team. I did not play for them, and I did not work for them. There is no "we" in that context.
I DID spend four years at TAMU, and I earned two degrees in the process. I am an Aggie.
The song says it all. "We are the Aggies, the Aggies are we."
I DID spend four years at TAMU, and I earned two degrees in the process. I am an Aggie.
The song says it all. "We are the Aggies, the Aggies are we."
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 4:19 pm
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:19 pm to AggieHank86
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Wild-T, what is it that you think makes me "mad?"
Your obsession.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:20 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Wild-T:
You are saying that I am "mad" at my own (non-existent) obsession?
Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? You should really sound-out your posts before you hit "enter."
You are saying that I am "mad" at my own (non-existent) obsession?
Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? You should really sound-out your posts before you hit "enter."
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:20 pm to m2pro
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So you're one of those stuck up guys... gotcha.
No, people can be fans of whatever they want. But being a fan is different than being an alum.
When people say "we" around a university they are often either an alum or faculty.
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And what do you say to all the pro team fans out there?
On this subject or in general?
On this subject: Root for whatever team you want, though I think it is lame if you root for a team out of your region that you have no real connection to.
In general: Professional football's primary purpose is to tap into the primitive and tribal part of our brain with less overall violence than my village literally fighting yours. Just like someone who is part of crossfit or only eats a paleo diet it is important that you realize what you are doing when you become a professional football fan.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:22 pm to cardboardboxer
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though I think it is lame if you root for a team out of your region that you have no real connection to.
meh, it's pro sports. It's literally no different than rooting for one city's McDonald's franchises to out earn another's in a particular quarter.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:23 pm to cardboardboxer
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In general: ALL SPORTS primary purpose is to tap into the primitive and tribal part of our brain
And to respond to what defines a fab as a fan is simple choice. You hurt when a team loses and have joy when they win, then you earn the proverbial "we."
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:25 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I think it is more than that. I think professional teams gives the associated metro a set of common symbols and narratives that are important for community cohesion. Some people love to frame their world as a simplistic dichotomy of "us vs them" and professional sports gives at outlet to those primitive desires so that they don't spill over and ruin other more important areas of life (like what happened to national politics).
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:27 pm to cardboardboxer
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I think it is more than that.
it's not
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:30 pm to m2pro
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And to respond to what defines a fab as a fan is simple choice. You hurt when a team loses and have joy when they win, then you earn the proverbial "we."
I completely agree there. Fan association can have little to do with actual real-world associations.
With that said, the universities have missions more important than football- in a way football is just the "marketing division" of the "company." When you are talking about a university and say "we" then I and others assume you mean "Me as an alumni."
Not trying to offend, just saying the most common way to "earn" an association with a university is to go there!
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:31 pm to LSUsuperfresh
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If you want LSU to win as bad as I do and you watch our attempts at what some call offense sometimes, I see no way possible not to feel something that resembles misery.
You're choosing to be miserable. That is worse than deluding oneself into believing that their team is good.
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these two fanbases seem to exude delusion.
ALL college football fans exude delusion, if you don't believe that, well, you're delusional.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:31 pm to m2pro
Most of the negative fans are newbies who came upon the scene during the "turnaround"-Saban or even the Dinardo years, yes he went into a self inflicted downward spiral towards the end but he was responsible for changing the culture around the program. These newbies have NO idea what bad football is, & I'm not talking about being disappointed with a 10 or 11 win season or losing a BCS Championship game. I'm talking about the days of praying for a winning season or hoping Tulane doesn't whip your butt. These negatigers are spoiled & don't realize how lucky they have been over the last 15 years or so. They think Miles is an idiot; they've never met Archer or Hallman. Not only has Miles built upon what Dinardo (you have to give him some credit) & Saban created, he has added to it by winning & competing for championships, recruiting, & maintaining a top 10 program year in & year out. These negatigers don't want to give Miles any credit for competing in the toughest conference & division. I'm not a "sunshine pumper" & I feel there have been some underachieving or some scratch your head moments but you have to look at the big picture. Not every year is a championship year & even if Miles would tattoo "starter" across Brandon Harris' head & never line up in the I formation again this year, lsu would still not win the West, SEC , or the NC. This is a young team that is feeling the loss of 3 years of "early departures"; not an excuse-fact. Real fans knew this year was going to be rough & not without disappointments. What Miles does within the next two years is going to say a lot about him & either strengthen his legacy or destroy it.
I think it's easier for the "old timers" (40+) to keep a level head because they know that LSU fans are livin' the dream right now, as a whole. It's too early to jump off the top of the south end zone expansion or build a statue of Miles.
Only good thing about the whole negatigers vs sunshine pumpers.....it means people care, not many people cared in the 80's & early 90's.
I think it's easier for the "old timers" (40+) to keep a level head because they know that LSU fans are livin' the dream right now, as a whole. It's too early to jump off the top of the south end zone expansion or build a statue of Miles.
Only good thing about the whole negatigers vs sunshine pumpers.....it means people care, not many people cared in the 80's & early 90's.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:32 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Draconian Sanctions
He's trying too hard, but that's none of my bidness.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:32 pm to cardboardboxer
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I completely agree there.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:33 pm to TIGERFANZZ
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Most of the negative fans are newbies who came upon the scene during the "turnaround"-Saban or even the Dinardo years
wrong. LSU fans have been this way since the beginning of time.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
People don't get off their asses to vote in elections that give McDonald's millions in tax dollars to build their stores.
I mean I get your point- the NFL is just a business. I think if we ever forgot that the Rice scandal reminded us.
But the NFL is more than just a business- there are real ties to a community. It would have SUCKED if the Saints would have left New Orleans. It would have been a real blow to that city, more than just any single normal business leaving.
I mean I get your point- the NFL is just a business. I think if we ever forgot that the Rice scandal reminded us.
But the NFL is more than just a business- there are real ties to a community. It would have SUCKED if the Saints would have left New Orleans. It would have been a real blow to that city, more than just any single normal business leaving.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:33 pm to m2pro
Hell, they were one catch away from losing, yet they are talking shite? It's almost sad, but props to them for putting up a good fight. Certainly an atypical year from the SECW aside of Ole Miss and Aggieland.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:36 pm to TIGERFANZZ
quote:wrong, I'm considering fairly negative and I saw plenty of arse whippings under Hallman.
Most of the negative fans are newbies who came upon the scene during the "turnaround"-Saban or even the Dinardo years, yes he went i
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:36 pm to cardboardboxer
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People don't get off their asses to vote in elections that give McDonald's millions in tax dollars to build their stores.
Pro sports have done a great job selling themselves as "necessary".
This particular form of corporate welfare is even more disgusting than others.
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It would have SUCKED if the Saints would have left New Orleans. It would have been a real blow to that city, more than just any single normal business leaving.
I agree with you here but that was a special case.
I do see some value in the smaller cities having a team, any team, to be able to promote themselves as "big time"
but study after study has shown that these teams don't have anywhere near the impact that most people think they do.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:36 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
You have 3 choices when cheering on LSU and we display complete ineptitude on offense:
1. Be miserable
2. Not give a shite
3. Fabricate some alternate reality
#1 seems like the most reasonable and rational. I'm too invested in LSU football for #2.
1. Be miserable
2. Not give a shite
3. Fabricate some alternate reality
#1 seems like the most reasonable and rational. I'm too invested in LSU football for #2.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:37 pm to LSUsuperfresh
Just curious, did you graduate from LSU?
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