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re: The plight of LSU fans

Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18495 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:38 pm to
LSU fans had grown accustomed to beating MSU that losing to them felt like a nightmare. Bama fans will understand this feeling after losing to Ole Miss
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:47 pm to
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In general, do you think it's better for a program to have positive/unrealistic fans, or negative/realistic fans?


Positive/realistic.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:48 pm to
Nice post.

There are probably subsets of both but in a nutshell I think its better to have positive/unrealistic fans. The "negatigers" are awful and really do nothing to enhance the program only themselves with 'see I told you,so'.

Sure,there is a point where one turns one way or another but I'd rather have positive fans that jackasses who seem to wallow in the teams' misery.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:51 pm to
The LSU football program has been so good ... for so long ... that the bulk of the LSU fanbase has become psychotically delusional.

They are completely incapable of feeling thankful for a 10-win season, because they are utterly-convinced that they are simply ENTITLED (every year) to be competing for divisional, conference and national titles.

For the same reason, they seem to be completely unable to grasp that another team's fans (e.g., A&M) would be quite happy with a 9-4 season and successful bowl appearance and would be ECSTATIC with a season record of 11-2 and a fifth-place finish in the national polls.

In the minds of the collective LSU fanbase, those results are a failure of near-Biblical proportion. That sort of season is something outside the natural laws of the known universe.



For this reason, I am hoping that LSU fails to bowl-qualify this year.



I do not generally engage in schadenfreude, and I do not dislike the LSU football program. Such a result will be disappointing and sad for the young men playing the game (which I hate to see), but I hope that such a season would bring some much-needed perspective to the unrealistic LSU fan base.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7299 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:52 pm to
I think having faith and believing in your time is what you do as a fan. Those that criticize the program and the players and the coaches are the ones I truly don't understand. if it makes you that miserable then by all means go elsewhere.

By the 4th quarter pretty much everyone I was watching the game with had given up. I kept saying that it was possible. I got the usual responses "yeah it's possible but it's not gonna happen". Which is one thing I don't believe in admitting. if it's possible, I'm staying to maybe see it happen and that's all there is to it. Yeah maybe we have played like shite for 45 minutes, but I'll be damned if in these last 15 minutes I'm gonna give up just because it's highly unlikely.

Another thing that's frustrating is people that give up on a team and then when the improbable DOES happen, all of a sudden they are riding high again. You JUST gave up on the team, called the coach an idiot, said the players don't need to be on the field. And you were just proven wrong. What gives a fan like that the right to bask in the glory. They had given up, if it were up to them the team would be off the field.

If you're with a team, you're with a team through thick and thin and you ALWAYS believe. That's just the way I see it, call me a sunshine pumper IDGAF. I STILL truly believe that the Tigers can win the national championship this year. yeah it may take a fukin godsend, but it CAN happen.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:53 pm to
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For this reason, I am hoping that LSU fails to bowl-qualify this year.



Too far, and too mean. All it will take to reset LSU expectations is Michigan making the right hire in the offseason, followed by the Tigers hiring someone a rung or two below what their fans expect.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8330 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:58 pm to
It's not always a miserable experience, although sometimes it is. If you want LSU to win as bad as I do and you watch our attempts at what some call offense sometimes, I see no way possible not to feel something that resembles misery. The reason sunshine pumpers annoy me so bad is the fact that I am utterly repulsed by those that are able to delude themselves in such a manner. It's just an inherent quality that I possess. It's also a reason why I have such disdain for many A&M and Arkansas fans as I think the majority of us will agree that these two fanbases seem to exude delusion.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:59 pm to
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psychotically delusional.

It's funny when football fans try to be psychiatric experts, but I will go ahead and note your obsession here.
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They are completely incapable of feeling thankful for a 10-win season


You mad.
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In the minds of the collective LSU fanbase, those results are a failure of near-Biblical proportion. That sort of season is something outside the natural laws of the known universe.


You're delusional.
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For this reason, I am hoping that LSU fails to bowl-qualify this year.


...and butthurt.





Did I leave any out?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:06 pm to
LSU fans are ADD with bipolar disorder.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:07 pm to
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If you want LSU to win as bad as I do and you watch our attempts at what some call offense sometimes, I see no way possible not to feel something that resembles misery. The reason sunshine pumpers annoy me so bad is the fact that I am utterly repulsed by those that are able to delude themselves in such a manner.


Okay. Yea, I was amused at some people who got too much into the last few minutes of the State game. Not while AT the game,but the day after,etc.

But if you were one of those people after the Wisconsin game that couldn't enjoy the win and comeback and just picked everything apart, that type of fan does no one any good.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84835 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

there seem to be a 50/50 split between fans that are positive about the current stand of their program and those that are negative.


this has always been the case and will always be the case. people were just as critical under Saban, believe it or not.

quote:

The 50% that are positive seem to have a minority of realistic fans. The 50% that are negative seem to have a minority of unrealistic fans.


I think both sides have equally over the top percentages relative to their position.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28596 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:11 pm to
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If you're with a team, you're with a team through thick and thin and you ALWAYS believe. That's just the way I see it, call me a sunshine pumper IDGAF. I STILL truly believe that the Tigers can win the national championship this year. yeah it may take a fukin godsend, but it CAN happen.



I HEAR you, bro. I'm the same way DURING the season. I think that's our duty/burden/job... and to me personally, that is natural. THIS is why fans say "we" when referring to the team. We earn that right by suffering thru the losses.

Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:12 pm to
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THIS is why fans say "we" when referring to the team. We earn that right by suffering thru the losses.


You earn the "we" by attending the university.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:12 pm to
Wild-T, what is it that you think makes me "mad?"

LSU has a great football program. I admire it. One of my best friends is an LSU grad living out in California. He and I have texted our way thru half of the LSU games and half of the TAMU games for the past two years. I even wore purple & gold for one of those games. I LIKE the LSU football program, and I think that many members of the fanbase are unworthy of that program.

In 2012 and 2013, both A&M and LSU had pretty good years. We both finished in the Top-20 both years. TAMU finished #5 in the national polls in 2012 (ahead of LSU), and LSU finished #14 in 2013 (ahead of A&M).

We both have good programs. And LSU beat us both years. Aggies can accept that fact, and still see the last two seasons as having been successful. Therein lies the difference. And therein lies the reason that the LSU fandom needs an adjustment to its perspective.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 4:15 pm
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28596 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:13 pm to
The act of being a real fan, by default, is an agreement to be disappointed nearly every year. Only ONE team can win it all.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19400 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:13 pm to
For me it isn't so much about winning or losing as it is about seeing the team reach its potential. If LSU loses to a better team, so be it. But damn,if you can't see that LSU often wins in spite of itself you aren't looking closely.

I simply want the kids to have the best chance to succeed each week. I could care less how entertaining the game is. Hell, I thought the Bama 9-6 game as awesome.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28596 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:15 pm to
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You earn the "we" by attending the university.


So you're one of those stuck up guys... gotcha.

And what do you say to alll the pro team fans out there?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:15 pm to
Interior OL, we have talent.. obviously a huge step back due to scheme issue. Thanks Grimes.

Interior DL, we just don't have talent. Our best DL is a freshman.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:16 pm to
I get labeled as a negatiger as well.

If you say anything remotely real or point out the stupidity that we all sometimes see, is that being negative or realistic? I say realistic. If all fans were only sunshine pumpers there would never be any pressure to improve anything.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28596 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:17 pm to
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For me it isn't so much about winning or losing as it is about seeing the team reach its potential.


Totally gave me an epiphany. Never truer words for season to season expectations.
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