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re: The "New" SEC at 25 years - Ranking the programs since the 1st Expansion of 1992
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:51 pm to Rohan Gravy
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:51 pm to Rohan Gravy
Really?
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I agree with that but the flip side could be that Tennessee had a 5 year run from 1995 to 1999 where they went 54-8 and 35-5 in the SEC, finishing in the Top 5 all 5 years. Nobody outside of Florida and Alabama has had a 5 year run like that. They just happened to be in the same division with Florida during their all-time run.
SummerOfGeorge is the one who knocks
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:59 pm to nc14
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nc14
You want this one?
I'm done with him...
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:08 pm to KajunGator
I got nothing 
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:11 pm to KajunGator
I'm predicting chest pains in the near future....
Everyone knows what alabama is....
LSU and Auburn are the only teams that have a legitimate chance of beating them in the next few years....
You might not even be the best team in the East over the next few years....
We will see
Everyone knows what alabama is....
LSU and Auburn are the only teams that have a legitimate chance of beating them in the next few years....
You might not even be the best team in the East over the next few years....
We will see
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:48 pm to Korin
You left off Mississippi State's Orange Bowl in 2014. Every SEC team except Kentucky, Vandy, and Missouri has played in at least one major bowl game since 1992. I don't think any other conference is close to that.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Given that you emphasize NCs over the other categories with your ranking of Alabama ahead of Florida, but regard division titles as not very important with your ranking of Ole Miss over Mississippi State, it seems that SEC titles should be somewhere between national titles and division titles in their level of importance, which makes me curious about this:
NCs and division titles are even, but Auburn has one more SEC title. Tennessee has two more bowl appearances, a 1.9% higher SEC win percentage and a 0.2% higher overall win percentage. So,
1 SEC title < 2 bowl appearances + 1.9% SEC winning percentage + 0.2% overall winning percentage?
If so, this would indicate that the national title is the only thing that matters, and even an additional SEC title doesn't amount to much of anything, being outweighed by razor-thin advantages in bowl appearances, SEC and overall winning percentages. I'm not sure I would agree with that assessment of the importance of winning the SEC championship.
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4. TENNESSEE : 1 National Title, 2 SEC Titles, 5 SECCG Appearances, 20 Bowl Games, 60.4% SEC Win, 67.1% Overall Win
5. AUBURN : 1 National Title, 3 SEC Titles, 5 SECCG Appearances, 18 Bowl Games, 58.5% SEC Win, 66.9% Overall Win
NCs and division titles are even, but Auburn has one more SEC title. Tennessee has two more bowl appearances, a 1.9% higher SEC win percentage and a 0.2% higher overall win percentage. So,
1 SEC title < 2 bowl appearances + 1.9% SEC winning percentage + 0.2% overall winning percentage?
If so, this would indicate that the national title is the only thing that matters, and even an additional SEC title doesn't amount to much of anything, being outweighed by razor-thin advantages in bowl appearances, SEC and overall winning percentages. I'm not sure I would agree with that assessment of the importance of winning the SEC championship.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:37 pm to msudawg1200
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You left off Mississippi State's Orange Bowl in 2014. Every SEC team except Kentucky, Vandy, and Missouri has played in at least one major bowl game since 1992. I don't think any other conference is close to that.
I fixed it.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:39 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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If you're including the last 25 years (1992-2016) you have to add the 1992 and 1993 Southwest Conference Titles to A&M's resume.
Not really, this is the SEC.
What you did before you came, and what you do after you leave matters not if it does not add to the SEC Natty hardware count. this is the difference between school level thinking and conference level thinking.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:41 pm to Nuts4LSU
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NCs and division titles are even, but Auburn has one more SEC title. Tennessee has two more bowl appearances, a 1.9% higher SEC win percentage and a 0.2% higher overall win percentage. So,
1 SEC title < 2 bowl appearances + 1.9% SEC winning percentage + 0.2% overall winning percentage?
If so, this would indicate that the national title is the only thing that matters, and even an additional SEC title doesn't amount to much of anything, being outweighed by razor-thin advantages in bowl appearances, SEC and overall winning percentages. I'm not sure I would agree with that assessment of the importance of winning the SEC championship.
national title > SEC title > BC/BA/BCS/NY6 bowl win > bowl win or division title
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:43 pm to msudawg1200
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Every SEC team except Kentucky, Vandy, and Missouri has played in at least one major bowl game since 1992. I don't think any other conference is close to that
Not true. 11 of the 12 current Pac 12 members have. Only Cal has not.
Also, 8 of the 10 current members of the Big XII have. Only Texas Tech and Iowa State have not, and three of the four teams they have lost during that period also played in major bowls while in the Big XII.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:47 pm to Nuts4LSU
Yea, I don't know. You could flip a coin with Auburn and Tennessee depending on what your value more.
As for A&M, clearly I included SWC as B12.
As for A&M, clearly I included SWC as B12.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:47 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Not true. 11 of the 12 current Pac 12 members have.
That's right.
Arizona - 2014 Fiesta
Arizona State - 96 Rose
Colorado - 01 Fiesta
Oregon - 2014 CFP
Oregon State - 2000 Fiesta
Stanford - 2015 Rose
UCLA - 98 Rose
USC - 2016 Rose
Utah - 08 Sugar
Washington - 2016 Peach
Washington State - 02 Rose
And Cal should've played in the 04 Rose instead of Texas if not for Mack Brown politics.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Yea, I don't know. You could flip a coin with Auburn and Tennessee depending on what your value more.
100% of SEC fans would value an SEC championship over any dumb arse bowl win.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:21 pm to SECdragonmaster
Not only that but y'all also have a Sugar Bowl win to go with the natty.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:29 pm to SECdragonmaster
You seem really upset over an arbitrary list in which the author readily admits it could go either way.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:07 pm to WG_Dawg
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4. TENNESSEE : 1 National Title, 2 SEC Titles, 5 SECE Titles, 20 Bowl Games, 60.7% SEC Win, 67.1% Overall Win
6. GEORGIA : 0 National Title, 2 SEC Titles, 5 SECE Titles, 22 Bowl Games, 63.2% SEC Win, 70.0% Overall Win
Isn't it funny that we would undoubtedly be much higher than UT, yet the only reason they are perceived to be higher is because an arkansas player tripped on himself and dropped a ball? With one flap of a butterfly's wings..
I blame Terrence Edwards for dropping that pass in Jacksonville.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:10 pm to Dawgfanman
It's not like y'all would've beaten Miami.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:21 am to Nuts4LSU
Actually, Texas Tech played in the 1994 Cotton Bowl which was a major bowl that year even though they finished 6-5.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:31 am to SummerOfGeorge
Meh,Auburn got lucky with a one year wonder. All they have is Bo Jackson memories, which is very respectful but I don't see Gus being there for too much longer.
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