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re: The new college baseballs
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:06 am to GoldenSombrero
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:06 am to GoldenSombrero
in general message board terms:
-3 refers to previous bats
bbcor refers to bats now.
I'm not disputing your technicalities, just telling you what is meant when people use those phrases.
-3 refers to previous bats
bbcor refers to bats now.
I'm not disputing your technicalities, just telling you what is meant when people use those phrases.
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:07 am to RB10
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Well that was UGA's fault. Everyone knew, even then, Nike bats sucked arse.
Very true
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:11 am to WG_Dawg
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The new bats started in 2011.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:15 am to RB10
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Well that was UGA's fault. Everyone knew, even then, Nike bats sucked arse.
I never claimed it was or wasn't our fault...just pointing out the specific bats we used at that specific time were atrocious, and put us at a disadvantage on the field. That's all.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:17 am to bbap
Gotcha, see what your saying now. I thought bbcor had been around awhile, but im thinking of besr. Too many acronyms to keep up with. 
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:17 am to WG_Dawg
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I never claimed it was or wasn't our fault...just pointing out the specific bats we used at that specific time were atrocious, and put us at a disadvantage on the field. That's all.
I understand where you're coming from. I also thought you meant the NCAA made bat changes in 2008.
Whoever made the call to go to Nike should have been shunned by UGA though. Horrible decision.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:37 am to WG_Dawg
Went to LSU scrimmage and have one of the new ones and compared to the old ball seams are noticeable. Bats will always be more of the difference but LSU did pepper some balls during the scrimmage, it will increase offense but the ball is not going to fly out of the park, you will see more doubles and gap hits than before. The biggest difference is that OF will not be able to play as shallow as we've seen the last couple of years which was choking off the singles. There will be more scoring without having to bunt guys over constantly just to generate offense. If you come to the park expecting gorilla ball you will be disappointed.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:41 am to nicholastiger
The bats were modified twice if I remember right. BBCOR did not come into play until sometime after 09 season but the bats LSU used in 2009 were less than those used back in the gorilla ball days. Corbin was the one bitching about the 09 bats and somehow Vandy is the only team still raking the ball with 98 mph pitchers - I want the supplements they are using.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:44 am to nicholastiger
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back in the gorilla ball days
They used big barrel -5's in those days. That was just too much.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:48 am to WG_Dawg
if they hadn't switched bats LSU would have about 10 NCs right now
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:55 am to WG_Dawg
quote:the other teams got to use better bats?
UGA is the 2008 CWS champ.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:56 am to Diamondawg
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the other teams got to use better bats?
the discussion has already moved on to other talking points...but yes we were using different (very shitty) bats than the other teams that CWS. Our fault, but still at a disadvantage.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:58 am to WG_Dawg
Just imagining AJ Reed and the old bats. lawdy... 
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:00 pm to tREED3R
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Just imagining AJ Reed and the old bats. lawdy...
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tREED3R
Sup AJ
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:05 pm to nicholastiger
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Corbin was the one bitching about the 09 bats and somehow Vandy is the only team still raking the ball with 98 mph pitchers - I want the supplements they are using.
Will be made available soon for a price. Patent-pending.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:19 pm to Bill_Brasky
I really don't see it having that much of an impact on the distance of each hit ball. What it will do is take the break away from a lot of pitchers, thereby creating more hitter-friendly pitches. Thus more balls will get hit further.
I'm not upset by the lowering of the seam profile. But if they're trying to fix the fact that the bats neutered college baseball offenses, they're going about it the wrong way.
I'm not upset by the lowering of the seam profile. But if they're trying to fix the fact that the bats neutered college baseball offenses, they're going about it the wrong way.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:23 pm to Guava Jelly
Yea bring back the 2009 bats or just go to wooden bats. Simple.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:21 pm to GoldenSombrero
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The past few years have been frustrating, not because of the low scoring, but because even if you were only down 1-0 in the bottom of the ninth you didn't feel like there was much chance to tie the game up with one swing.
I don't know why people are so afraid to just say it, the games were awful with the new bats. It changed the game in the complete opposite direction of gorilla ball. It was terrible and they should have fast tracked these balls last year IMO to make up for the dreadful impact of the new bats.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:28 pm to Guava Jelly
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But if they're trying to fix the fact that the bats neutered college baseball offenses, they're going about it the wrong way.
If their goal was to decrease the ball's velocity coming off the bat then they did need to deaden the bats. The game was perfect with circa 2008 bats IMO, but if I recall their intent was to increase safety not limit the offensive production.
Theoretically the new balls will generate offensive numbers closer to the previous bats while maintaining the ball's safer velocity. We'll see.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:56 pm to Bill_Brasky
Glad to see this happen. They did a sports science on it a few years ago.
Ball will travel farther but shouldn't get is back to the gorilla ball days before the new bats, and it's harder for pitchers to throw junk.
Also gets the balls closer to what the mlb uses which is a positive
Ball will travel farther but shouldn't get is back to the gorilla ball days before the new bats, and it's harder for pitchers to throw junk.
Also gets the balls closer to what the mlb uses which is a positive
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