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re: The NCAA Response to OM - the Cliff Notes Beatdown Version
Posted on 8/10/17 at 9:01 pm to bbvdd
Posted on 8/10/17 at 9:01 pm to bbvdd
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Ole Miss is screwed. And not some loving put it in slowly screwed.
This will be angry rapey type sex.
Nah. They know it is coming.
This is you lost a bet, now just lie there and take it sex.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 9:56 pm to redbird4state
Damn. At every turn, it just keeps looking worse for Ole Miss. I don't know NCAA rules very well, but these in particular sound really bad for the Rebels:
Falsifying information is a pretty explicit demonstration of intent to cheat, and not just by a rogue actor but "the institution". And there are numerous instances of this. I have to think this is a really serious problem.
It's one thing to be oblivious to what's happening in your program, but if the enforcement staff was notified, it's hard to figure out how they would not take action.
Wow. A lot of Ole Miss' case has been based on discrediting the kid and his motives, and the NCAA is basically saying Ole Miss is full of shite and the kid is telling the truth.
Ouch. They didn't even vet him through their compliance office? How in the hell?
Even though he's gone now, Freeze's open and blatant cheating is going to be held against Ole Miss, and this is pretty bad. The NCAA doesn't like cheating, but it REALLY doesn't like cheating and trying to cover it up.
Always a killer.
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multiple instances in this allegation in which the football program submitted false recruiting documentation to the compliance office or failed to submit recruiting documentation altogether
Falsifying information is a pretty explicit demonstration of intent to cheat, and not just by a rogue actor but "the institution". And there are numerous instances of this. I have to think this is a really serious problem.
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In April 2016, the enforcement staff's football development group received information from a confidential source, unaffiliated with any institution in the Southeastern Conference, that [redacted] received a significant amount of cash from institutional representatives during his recruitment.
It's one thing to be oblivious to what's happening in your program, but if the enforcement staff was notified, it's hard to figure out how they would not take action.
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The institution, certain involved individuals and others have speculated that [redacted] fabricated statements implicating the institution to redirect attention away from his current institution. These suggestions are baseless and should be disregarded by the hearing panel. The enforcement staff finds to be credible and notes his various incentives to provide truthful information in the infractions process. Furthermore, when possible the enforcement staff tested information shared and found it to be reliable
Wow. A lot of Ole Miss' case has been based on discrediting the kid and his motives, and the NCAA is basically saying Ole Miss is full of shite and the kid is telling the truth.
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Hughes, irrespective of his background or stated intentions, posed a clear red flag during the four then prospects' recruitment. Had Freeze satisfied his obligation to promote an atmosphere for compliance, either he or members of his staff would have known to take the obvious precaution of consulting the compliance office ? or otherwise confirming the propriety of their behavior ? before engaging Hughes in recruiting. However, nobody did so and Freeze cannot demonstrate that he promoted an atmosphere of compliance.
Ouch. They didn't even vet him through their compliance office? How in the hell?
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Had Freeze reported his contacts to the compliance office in December 2013, it could have served as a meaningful example to his staff on how to handle such situations and prevented Kiffin's violation approximately five months later. Both underlying violations are indicative of a significant compliance failure in the football program, and Allegation No. 13 shows a failure in Freeze's monitoring efforts. In light of Freeze's personal involvement in this violation, he was also unable to demonstrate that he promoted an atmosphere of compliance in the football program.
Even though he's gone now, Freeze's open and blatant cheating is going to be held against Ole Miss, and this is pretty bad. The NCAA doesn't like cheating, but it REALLY doesn't like cheating and trying to cover it up.
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the institution failed to take meaningful action as required by the Principles to correct the behavior in its football program, which allowed additional violations to occur and illustrated a lack of institutional control.
Always a killer.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:10 pm to piggilicious
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I know I'm in the minority but GOOD, if the NCAA as the authority of college athletics is going to exist, I want them to have balls and actually punish cheaters.
Wonder if Henry still thinks it was worth it?
Indeed. If we are going have a controlling body then by all means let them drop the hammer on people that cheat.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:17 pm to redbird4state
Frick Ole Miss and enjoy the burnnnnnnnn bitches
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:19 pm to redbird4state
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The violations occurred, and recurred, over five and a half years, including during the investigation when attention to compliance should have been paramount. During this same time period, the institution failed to take meaningful action as required by the Principles to correct the behavior in its football program, which allowed additional violations to occur and illustrated a lack of institutional control.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:26 pm to redbird4state
"............... and illustrated a lack of institutional control."
This is no good. This is........no good.
This is no good. This is........no good.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:50 pm to Keltic Tiger
I don't think the repeat violator rule really applies here, though.
"in 1985, in response to rampant violations at several schools, the NCAA Council passed the "repeat violator" rule. The rule stipulates that if a second major violation occurs at any institution within five years of being on probation in the same sport or another sport, that institution can be barred from competing in the sport involved in the second violation for either one or two seasons."
Ole Miss wasn't on probation, they were under investigation.
I mean, the NCAA has the authority to issue a death penalty anyways, due to the severity and brazenness of the violations, but the repeat violator rule I think, isn't in play.
"in 1985, in response to rampant violations at several schools, the NCAA Council passed the "repeat violator" rule. The rule stipulates that if a second major violation occurs at any institution within five years of being on probation in the same sport or another sport, that institution can be barred from competing in the sport involved in the second violation for either one or two seasons."
Ole Miss wasn't on probation, they were under investigation.
I mean, the NCAA has the authority to issue a death penalty anyways, due to the severity and brazenness of the violations, but the repeat violator rule I think, isn't in play.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:56 pm to BoarEd
Maybe not yet.
But If OM doesn't learn how to hire folks who aren't a part of their dysfunctional internal culture, look for repeated violations in the future.
But If OM doesn't learn how to hire folks who aren't a part of their dysfunctional internal culture, look for repeated violations in the future.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:58 pm to EKG
What they oughta do is enforce a self-imposed death penalty.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:45 am to Arksulli
It was nice to know you Ole Miss. Welcome to dweller.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 2:19 am to Razorborn
Hi fellas. My name is Mr G Reb.
Would like to let ya’ll know that during the next 5 seasons of football I will be drinking myself into a deep dark black oblivion much like I did the years of Coach O and last 2 of Nutt. All years I was at OM I might add. So this is nothing new haha
Would like to let ya’ll know that during the next 5 seasons of football I will be drinking myself into a deep dark black oblivion much like I did the years of Coach O and last 2 of Nutt. All years I was at OM I might add. So this is nothing new haha
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:47 am to Cobb Dawg
I guess what amazes me the most is the fact that all of this was going on DURING AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION. That takes guts.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:38 am to BoarEd
quote:They were on probation in women's basketball and track/field.
I don't think the repeat violator rule really applies here, though.
"in 1985, in response to rampant violations at several schools, the NCAA Council passed the "repeat violator" rule. The rule stipulates that if a second major violation occurs at any institution within five years of being on probation in the same sport or another sport, that institution can be barred from competing in the sport involved in the second violation for either one or two seasons."
quote:They cheated while under investigation for football and while ON probation in two other sports.
Ole Miss wasn't on probation, they were under investigation.
I mean, the NCAA has the authority to issue a death penalty anyways, due to the severity and brazenness of the violations, but the repeat violator rule I think, isn't in play.
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