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re: The NCAA Response to OM - the Cliff Notes Beatdown Version
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:00 pm to ljhog
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:00 pm to ljhog
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Reduce scholarships by 5, 4, & 3 over a three year period, a 2 year bowl ban and let's move on to playin' football. This Ole Miss story is getting tiresome.
Agreed, just cut to the chase already. We all know this is coming. Do we really have to draw it out?
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:03 pm to redbird4state
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the recruiting documentation the football program submitted to the compliance office for this visit again contained inaccuracie
This is what happens when a university's internal oversight and evaluation are conducted by [said] university's graduates.
It's systemic at Ole Miss.
Even within academics, many of the university's faculty received multiple degrees from OM (rampant academic inbreeding).
If they don't clean house, they may as well begin preparing for the next investigation.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:05 pm to Arksulli
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I have a feeling the NCAA is not going to settle for a slap on the wrist here and is going to aim to deliver a message to college football in general on this one.
I know I'm in the minority but GOOD, if the NCAA as the authority of college athletics is going to exist, I want them to have balls and actually punish cheaters.
Wonder if Henry still thinks it was worth it?
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:07 pm to bbvdd
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This will be angry rapey type sex.
Baylor style...
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:08 pm to EKG
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If they don't clean house, they may as well begin preparing for the next investigation.
Might be too late.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:09 pm to AshLSU
So OM fans believed it would be "just the tip"?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:10 pm to AshLSU
Then they're screwed.
The "repeat offender" charge was what prompted the NCAA to deliver the death penalty to SMU.
The "repeat offender" charge was what prompted the NCAA to deliver the death penalty to SMU.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:11 pm to MosesRAB93
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So OM fans believed it would be "just the tip"?
How long you been here? They never believed there was a dick to have "just the tip" to put in.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:38 pm to Central Pork
quote:i do too. i love it.
2-3 days worth of hearings. you gonna take off work for it?
I work at home. So, frick yes.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:40 pm to EKG
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Then they're screwed.
The "repeat offender" charge was what prompted the NCAA to deliver the death penalty to SMU.
This only occurred because SMU continued to cheat while being investigated.
The whole "the NCAA will never do this again, look what it did to SMU" argument is flawed.
SMU could have bounced back, but the regime that took over actually hurt SMU more than the NCAA did, they decided to raise academic standards beyond what was requited at the time while reducing funding, IIRC they self imposed scholarship losses both in numbers and length longer than the NCAA mandated as well.
SC has suffered TV bans and massive scholarship losses and have for the large part remained the SC people think of, bad coaching tenures excluded.*
OM can suffer the death penalty and be back to being a 4-7 win team on average shortly after the sanctions are lifted which would put them back to being the program they are historically.
*Every historically dominant program has suffered lulls due to bad coaching tenures, OU, ND, Texas, Michigan, SC, Bama, etc.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:42 pm to Bender the Great
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Do we really have to draw it out?
due to OM's arrogance the NCAA is enjoying the slow burn.
so, yes, it has to be drawn out.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:46 pm to redbird4state
Brutal. Goodnight Rebels.
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- The violations involve football personnel disregarding the institution's policies and expectations to take precautions to ensure their actions complied with NCAA legislation and/or reporting violations to the compliance office. The violations occurred, and recurred, over five and a half years, including during the investigation when attention to compliance should have been paramount. During this same time period, the institution failed to take meaningful action as required by the Principles to correct the behavior in its football program, which allowed additional violations to occur and illustrated a lack of institutional control.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:51 pm to FairhopeTider
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including during the investigation
These words mean worse things for OM than
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lack of institutional control.
They were going to get the lack of institutional control tag no matter what due the other programs committing violations and being put on sanctions during the same time frame.
The "including during the investigation" argument being made as well as the cheating being organized and condoned on an institutional level is ultimately what hammered SMU back in the 80s.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:55 pm to DaleDenton
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The whole "the NCAA will never do this again, look what it did to SMU" argument is flawed
I've said that very thing since day 1 of this whole OM mess.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:03 pm to FairhopeTider
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Brutal. Goodnight Rebels.
Everyone needs to read the entire NCAA response. It is an utter evisceration of the OM response to the NOA. Multiple phone & text records proving OM staff lied to the NCAA Phone, text, and freaking VIDEO evidence tying Rebel Rags to OM recruits. Text & phone records establishing network connections between OM staff and boosters. Text and phone records showing contact between pizza guy and recruits.
It is going to be very, very ugly.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:06 pm to JustGetItRight
Yes, this does have to be drawn out. Every single major revelation restarts the clock at zero. It can easily be two more years before the NCAA completely closes shop in Oxford-- assuming it doesn't nuke the program from orbit.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:09 pm to redbird4state
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:25 pm to redbird4state
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The violations involve football personnel disregarding the institution's policies and expectations to take precautions to ensure their actions complied with NCAA legislation and/or reporting violations to the compliance office. The violations occurred, and recurred, over five and a half years, including during the investigation when attention to compliance should have been paramount. During this same time period, the institution failed to take meaningful action as required by the Principles to correct the behavior in its football program, which allowed additional violations to occur and illustrated a lack of institutional control.
That's bad...right?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:33 pm to firewater706
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This is going to hurt a little
"...a little" my arse
The first piece of paper OM's defense team receives on 9/11 will be a consent for an episiotomy.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:44 pm to MaroonNation
Speaking hypothetically but probably realistically, too. IF all this is true, what person at O.Miss was in a position to make ...allow...all this to happen? And if the HC is the main instigator, there is your lack of institutional control. And if Freeze was getting away with all this, for so long, what was the A.D. doing all this time?
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