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re: The most overrated SEC backfields of all time.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:43 am to Killean
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:43 am to Killean
I had the good fortune of attending games with all four of these choices. Bo and Brent were the toughest of the bunch, dang it.
They just stole a teams will to fight by the 4th quarter. Plus there was no passing game to speak of during that era so the entire defense was schemed against the run.
They others were all very good players. I would love to have any of them on my team.
They just stole a teams will to fight by the 4th quarter. Plus there was no passing game to speak of during that era so the entire defense was schemed against the run.
They others were all very good players. I would love to have any of them on my team.
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:43 am to Box Geauxrilla
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Charles Scott was in a car accident after being drafted and was sent to the ICU. I wouldn't call him overrated by any means.
No he wasn't. That was Demetrius Byrd and it was right before draft day. He was stiull drafted while in ICU, but he suffered a brain injury and was never able to play again. Charles Scott was drafted in the 6th round and bounced around practice squads for a few years. He was arrested for rape after he was drafted, although I don't think anything ever came from it.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:47 am to lsufball19
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No he wasn't. That was Demetrius Byrd and it was right before draft day.
They both were. Thanks for your input.
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:49 am to shotcaller1
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I'm talking college production
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Today we'll examine SEC backfields that produced multiple first round draft picks and judge whether they were overrated, essentially offensive system products, by their NFL performances.
Then your reading comprehension skills are lacking.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 11:50 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:49 am to Killean
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How is it a troll when Auburn clearly has the highest producing backfield on the list?
It is worth noting that Trent Richardson has a chance to pass Bo Jackson in career NFL rushing and that the McFadden Jones combo has a chance to pass Brown/Jones for tops in the backfield yards from scrimmage.
The ignorance in that statement alone makes it a troll. NFL success isn't a measure of talent when injuries affect a players ability to produce. Bo was a casualty of this as well as Williams. Both were dominant when healthy. You could argue the same for a couple others whose NFL numbers weren't that great.
Being unable to compete at the NFL level because the talent isn't there is a sign that a system might have produced the CFB numbers.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 11:51 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:52 am to Box Geauxrilla
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They both were. Thanks for your input.
well, i was mistaken, but it still did not affect his career
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according to his agent, Jon Perzley.
"He's doing well. He's definitely got some cuts and bruises. He'll be okay, put it that way," Perzley said by phone minutes ago. "He's going to be fine. And anytime there's a car accident, you're just so glad he's alive. He's like a brother to me. He's okay."
Perzley emphasized that Scott's injuries were not career threatening and he'll absolutely be able to play football again.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:55 am to lsufball19
Regardless, I don't see now any 6th round pick could possibly be considered "overrated".
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:59 am to Tigerman97
Bo Jackson didn't produce.
Nobody argues that Darren McFadden would have been one of the greatest running backs in history if he didn't get hurt.
Yet Darren McFadden has two seasons where he averaged more yards per game than Bo Jackson ever did in his NFL career. That's just rushing, not even taking into consideration that Bo was not good at catching passes out of the backfield.
Herschel Walker had a far superior NFL career and gets slammed for being an NFL failure despite putting up what should probably be HoF numbers.
Bo Jackson puts up numbers that Trent Richardson is gonna beat.. and he gets talked about as being one of the best of all time.
Bo was built from a Nike marketing campaign. Everything around him is a tall tale. He's talked about as the fastest.. despite being measurably slower than Herschel Walker.
Bo is revered as a fantastic defensive baseball player.. despite being a below average defensive player at his position.
In Bo's college career he often looked like a man among boys, probably because he was. He was a 20 year old freshman. That age when McFadden and Walker were going to the NFL, Jackson was just starting his college career.
At the end of the day, Bo Jackson has the same number of rushing titles and 1,000 yard seasons in the NFL as I do. Maybe I was the best that never was...
Nobody argues that Darren McFadden would have been one of the greatest running backs in history if he didn't get hurt.
Yet Darren McFadden has two seasons where he averaged more yards per game than Bo Jackson ever did in his NFL career. That's just rushing, not even taking into consideration that Bo was not good at catching passes out of the backfield.
Herschel Walker had a far superior NFL career and gets slammed for being an NFL failure despite putting up what should probably be HoF numbers.
Bo Jackson puts up numbers that Trent Richardson is gonna beat.. and he gets talked about as being one of the best of all time.
Bo was built from a Nike marketing campaign. Everything around him is a tall tale. He's talked about as the fastest.. despite being measurably slower than Herschel Walker.
Bo is revered as a fantastic defensive baseball player.. despite being a below average defensive player at his position.
In Bo's college career he often looked like a man among boys, probably because he was. He was a 20 year old freshman. That age when McFadden and Walker were going to the NFL, Jackson was just starting his college career.
At the end of the day, Bo Jackson has the same number of rushing titles and 1,000 yard seasons in the NFL as I do. Maybe I was the best that never was...
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 5/10/16 at 12:10 pm to Killean
bo jackson's worst yards per attempt year (1988 - 4.3) is better than mcfadden's nfl career yards per attempt average (4.2).
bo jackson averaged over a yard more per carry than mcfadden over their careers.
bo jackson also averaged 20 more yards per game than mcfadden rushing over their careers.
bo jackson averaged a td every 32 carries. mcfadden averages a td every 45 carries.
the fact that you are comparing 99 games vs 38 in career totals just shows what a laughing stock you are.
bo jackson averaged over a yard more per carry than mcfadden over their careers.
bo jackson also averaged 20 more yards per game than mcfadden rushing over their careers.
bo jackson averaged a td every 32 carries. mcfadden averages a td every 45 carries.
the fact that you are comparing 99 games vs 38 in career totals just shows what a laughing stock you are.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 5/10/16 at 12:10 pm to Killean
Did Bo Jackson frick your sister?
Posted on 5/10/16 at 12:14 pm to Killean
Go back to HOgville fgt
Posted on 5/10/16 at 12:22 pm to VermilionTiger
Bo Jackson's best NFL season was 1989. He ran for 950 yards and had 9 catches for 69 yards. He averaged 86.4 rushing yards per game and 92.7 yards from scrimmage per game. That was Bo's third year in the league.
Darren McFadden's best NFL season was 2010. He ran for 1,157 yards and had 47 catches for 507 yards. He averaged 89.0 rushing yards per game and 128 yards from scrimmage per game. that was also his 3rd year.
Darren McFadden's best NFL season was 2010. He ran for 1,157 yards and had 47 catches for 507 yards. He averaged 89.0 rushing yards per game and 128 yards from scrimmage per game. that was also his 3rd year.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 12:29 pm to Box Geauxrilla
Stopped reading after the title
Posted on 5/10/16 at 12:58 pm to Killean
It's not like Bo was playing another professional sport or anything.
Retard.
Retard.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 1:12 pm to Killean
That's an idiotic way to look at it.... Obviously Bo Jackson was the greatest of these 8 players. Sure, his career was cut short, but that doesn't mean he was anything close to being "overrated."
Why not total up each duo's average yards per game:
Bo Jackson & Brent Fullwood: 110 yards/game combined
Mark Ingram & Trent Richardson: 96 yards/game combined
Carnell Williams & Ronnie Brown: 90.7 yards/game combined
Darren McFadden & Felix Jones: 90.3 yards/game combined
By those calculations, the Hog RBs were the most "overrated." Thanks for the thread.
Why not total up each duo's average yards per game:
Bo Jackson & Brent Fullwood: 110 yards/game combined
Mark Ingram & Trent Richardson: 96 yards/game combined
Carnell Williams & Ronnie Brown: 90.7 yards/game combined
Darren McFadden & Felix Jones: 90.3 yards/game combined
By those calculations, the Hog RBs were the most "overrated." Thanks for the thread.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 1:50 pm to Killean
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Bo Jackson didn't produce.
Yes. He did. he played baseball, too. Had he played 16 games a year, he would have had 1,000+ yards every single year. He was a threat to break a long TD every time he touched the ball.
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Herschel Walker had a far superior NFL career and gets slammed for being an NFL failure despite putting up what should probably be HoF numbers.
I hope you don't expect me to argue against this.
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obody argues that Darren McFadden would have been one of the greatest running backs in history if he didn't get hurt.
Understand that McFadden, as a whole got dinged up and injured every year. Bo Jackson had one big career ending injury.
Please don't misunderstand what I am saying...McFadden was not overrated, nor was he a product of a system offense. He was an excellent running back, and if he can manage to stay healthy for a complete season will be considered a GREAT running back.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 1:52 pm to joeyb147
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bo jackson's worst yards per attempt year (1988 - 4.3) is better than mcfadden's nfl career yards per attempt average (4.2).
bo jackson averaged over a yard more per carry than mcfadden over their careers.
bo jackson also averaged 20 more yards per game than mcfadden rushing over their careers.
bo jackson averaged a td every 32 carries. mcfadden averages a td every 45 carries.
the fact that you are comparing 99 games vs 38 in career totals just shows what a laughing stock you are.
In McFaddens defense he has played for some pretty weak offensive teams, while Bo played for some decent to good teams. Don't get me wrong...barring the bad injury, I think Bo would have been one of the greatest. Neither running back was overrated, imo. Both solid to great backs.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:06 pm to DawgsLife
You must include Peyton Hillis in the McFadden/Jones backfield, making that clearly the best backfield in the history of college football.
And...Ole Miss's boy HDN took them to an 8-5 record before being run out of Fayetteville and welcomed as a conquering hero in Oxford.
That all happened just before they caved in to the desire to beat MissStake, cheated ridiculously bad and were handed the death penalty.
Note: this post was written 2 years into the future. Think about it hard if you are an LSU fan.
And...Ole Miss's boy HDN took them to an 8-5 record before being run out of Fayetteville and welcomed as a conquering hero in Oxford.
That all happened just before they caved in to the desire to beat MissStake, cheated ridiculously bad and were handed the death penalty.
Note: this post was written 2 years into the future. Think about it hard if you are an LSU fan.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:20 pm to Rzrbackguy
The best backfield that there will ever be in college football history was Oklahoma State with Thurman Thomas and Barry Sanders.
That backfield had arguably two of the 10 best running backs of all time.
I eagerly await anybody at all trying to justify how Bo Jackson was better than either of them rofl.
That backfield had arguably two of the 10 best running backs of all time.
I eagerly await anybody at all trying to justify how Bo Jackson was better than either of them rofl.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:55 pm to Killean
Deion Sanders probably disagrees:
But I don't have any way to disprove your theory other than to offer the defense that I think most would disagree using the "eye" test, the fact Jackson played MLB, and the freak hip injury. But statistically speaking, it's a valid argument.
But I don't have any way to disprove your theory other than to offer the defense that I think most would disagree using the "eye" test, the fact Jackson played MLB, and the freak hip injury. But statistically speaking, it's a valid argument.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 3:02 pm
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