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re: The Hurry Up No Huddle in the SEC: Tennessee (and others) running it?
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:45 pm to Smoke Ring
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:45 pm to Smoke Ring
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Sorry we are breaking your offensive molds.
no offensive molds bud. you give yourself way too much credit. the hurry up ain't anywhere near a new or novel approach. ok, it limits substitution and requires a defender to employ a base defensive personnel groups. whippy do. it limits the offense too. if you are hinting that the dink multiple wr set spread offense is going to monopolize the SEC you are mistaken. power football wins championships.
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:45 pm to Tennessee Jed
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Lol, Tennessee has run the no huddle in the past(2007 team). This is nothing new to football.
As did Auburn with Tony Franklin at the same time.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:46 pm to Smoke Ring
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Sorry we are breaking your offensive molds.
"The same thing wins that always won and we just have a different bunch of excuses is we lose." PWB
The thing you have to ask yourself: Can you play defense, stop the run, run the football and play special teams? If the answer is no to any of those factors, your little girl spread offense won't carry you. (See championship level football the last 100 years.)
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:47 pm to BluegrassBelle
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As did Auburn with Tony Franklin at the same time.
The Hurry Up part adds an element all its own, when you are outmatched on both sides of the ball like aTm will be in the majority of conference games, the HU element ends up with you helping your opponent blow you out...
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:48 pm to Broken Coyote
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The thing you have to ask yourself: Can you play defense, stop the run, run the football and play special teams? If the answer is no to any of those factors, your little girl spread offense won't carry you. (See championship level football the last 100 years.)
Ignoring 2010, of course.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:48 pm to LSU GrandDad
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that the dink multiple wr set spread offense is going to monopolize the SEC
Not my words or intention
This post was edited on 9/3/12 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:53 pm to Big Kat
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You can do both. A&M is as physically dominant on the OL as anybody in the nation (or not far behind) and will run a HUNH. We strive to run 110 plays a game. UF averaged 70 plays last year. It's definitely something they've had to practice for
You can't run 110 plays a game and help your defense out. Take a look at the defensive statistics of every program that went to a no-huddle offense.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:01 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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You can't run 110 plays a game and help your defense out. Take a look at the defensive statistics of every program that went to a no-huddle offense.
To be fair, most teams that use an HUNH type offense do so to minimize their inferior talent relative to more established programs. For example, Texas Tech. If you went by recruiting rankings, there is no way TTU should ever beat a program like Texas.
TAMU could wind up being Arkansas part deaux, with a better recruiting ground.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:03 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Oklahoma is more of the example I was pointing to. They were always a top ten defense, until they moved to the no-huddle in 2008.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:04 pm to Smoke Ring
Oh noes. A no huddle offense. What-evah will SEC defenses do?
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:14 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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They were always a top ten defense, until they moved to the no-huddle in 2008.
And went to the BCS title game with it. The Sooners prolly would have beaten any team not named 'Florida ' that year.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:15 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
OU also went from scoring 50 PPG to being completely shut down by a young Florida defense.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:16 pm to Smoke Ring
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Not my words or intention
FWIW, when we ran the no huddle/Air Raid under Mumme it was with one of the top QBs in the country with Tim Couch and a serviceable defense at best. Set a ton of records, but inevitably ended up giving us a max of 7 wins and an Outback Bowl which we lost to Penn State. In the span he was there and ran it we went 5-6, 7-6 (Outback Bowl), 6-6 (Music City Bowl), then 2-9 (to be fair on this one, we got hit with NCAA violations and when the writing was on the wall it got ugly on the field too).
As said, the reality is that defense is what wins in this conference. Dooley and Co. may run no huddle but they also generally have a pretty decent defense to accompany it.
This post was edited on 9/3/12 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:19 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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OU also went from scoring 50 PPG to being completely shut down by a young Florida defense.
Who were prolly the only team that could have beaten them that year.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:21 pm to Smoke Ring
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Sorry we are breaking your offensive molds.
After LSU and Alabama hand your arse to you and Arky, MState and Auburn whip your arse and your coach is fired you'll change.
You're not coming here and changing the SEC collie boy
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:28 pm to stat19
Yeah, spreading it and airing it out doesn't work when you play talented Ds of the SEC. Thank goodness the Packers, Saints, and Patriots only had to play NFL defenses to win Super Bowls
More than one way to skin a cat boys. And the fact is that talent trumps all else. And A&M has more talent on offense than any other team that's run a no huddle hurry up other than Oklahoma.
But KDS is no dummy. He'll get a feel for what's working and go with it. He's not running on certain down just because an outdated play card says to
More than one way to skin a cat boys. And the fact is that talent trumps all else. And A&M has more talent on offense than any other team that's run a no huddle hurry up other than Oklahoma.
But KDS is no dummy. He'll get a feel for what's working and go with it. He's not running on certain down just because an outdated play card says to
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:33 pm to Big Kat
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More than one way to skin a cat boys. And the fact is that talent trumps all else. And A&M has more talent on offense than any other team that's run a no huddle hurry up other than Oklahoma.
Is this along the lines of all the shite being talked here by aggie this time last year about it being your greatest team since the great depression?
Back to Texags with this nonsense...
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:34 pm to Big Kat
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Yeah, spreading it and airing it out doesn't work when you play talented Ds of the SEC. Thank goodness the Packers, Saints, and Patriots only had to play NFL defenses to win Super Bowls
The changing of rules and the shelf-life of RBs has dictated that more than anything.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:34 pm to stat19
I think people have a misconception about what our offense is going to be.
Yes it will certainly be hurry up and it wouldn't surprise me if we average more snaps per game than anyone. Will it be the air raid though with a heavily biased pass to run ratio. I dont believe so.
Instead of thinking Texas Tech, think West Virginia. Dana Holgerson basically went 50/50 run pass with over 300 yards on the ground against Marshall.
While a lot of SEC teams have exposed spread teams, I think that had a lot to do with a talent discrepancy than scheme.
A&M is in a state that produces a wealth of offensive talent and average defensive talent. 7 on 7 is huge here.
If Sumlin can prove his offense works in the SEC, he is going to have some elite offensive recruiting classes for some time.
Arkansas showed you can win with offense. I think A&M can replicate that, but have an even better defense to complement.
Yes it will certainly be hurry up and it wouldn't surprise me if we average more snaps per game than anyone. Will it be the air raid though with a heavily biased pass to run ratio. I dont believe so.
Instead of thinking Texas Tech, think West Virginia. Dana Holgerson basically went 50/50 run pass with over 300 yards on the ground against Marshall.
While a lot of SEC teams have exposed spread teams, I think that had a lot to do with a talent discrepancy than scheme.
A&M is in a state that produces a wealth of offensive talent and average defensive talent. 7 on 7 is huge here.
If Sumlin can prove his offense works in the SEC, he is going to have some elite offensive recruiting classes for some time.
Arkansas showed you can win with offense. I think A&M can replicate that, but have an even better defense to complement.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 4:37 pm to Bob Ag
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The changing of rules and the shelf-life of RBs has dictated that more than anything.
Nice cop out but that is false.
The shelf life of RBs has merely made teams adapt to two RB systems. Its rare to have one RB pound the rock for a whole season.
Teams like Saints prove that elite offensive talent in a spread type scheme who like to air the ball out can beat elite defensive talent.
The point is, its more about the jimmies and joes than Xs and Os.
The are a lot of ways to utilize talent.
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