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The great DB debate: LSU vs Ole Miss
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:35 pm
It was posted multiple times by both sides this year, that their team had the best secondary in the SEC. Both teams had great seasons this year against the pass, so both sides of the argument were understandable. So after the end of the regular season, I pose the question to you SECr. Who had the better secondary this season? Or is there another team that should be in this debate? I will post some references, please correct me if wrong on the Ole Miss stuff
LSU:
CB1 - Tre'davious White
CB2 - Rashard Robinson (suspended for final 3 games)
CB3 - Jalen Collins
Safety - Jalen Mills
Safety - Ronald Martin
Others - Dwayne Thomas (injured in 5th game of season), Jamal Adams, Rickey Jefferson
Pass yards allowed - 1,948
Pass yards per game - 162.3
Pass TDs allowed - 9
Comp/Att - 181/359 or 50.42%
Pass yards per attempt - 5.43
Passes intercepted - 10
Defensive passing efficiency - 98.70
Ole Miss:
CB1 - Senquez Golson
CB2 - Mike Hilton
CB3/Husky?(not sure if correct position name) - Tony Connor
Safety - Cody Prewitt
Safety - Trae Elston
Others - Kendarious Webster, AJ Moore, CJ Hampton, CJ Moore (let me know if I got them all or included too many)
Pass yards allowed - 2,251
Pass yards per game - 187.6
Pass TDs allowed - 8
Comp/Att - 213/365 or 58.36%
Pass yards per attempt - 6.17
Passes intercepted - 19
Defensive passing efficiency - 106.98
LSU:
CB1 - Tre'davious White
CB2 - Rashard Robinson (suspended for final 3 games)
CB3 - Jalen Collins
Safety - Jalen Mills
Safety - Ronald Martin
Others - Dwayne Thomas (injured in 5th game of season), Jamal Adams, Rickey Jefferson
Pass yards allowed - 1,948
Pass yards per game - 162.3
Pass TDs allowed - 9
Comp/Att - 181/359 or 50.42%
Pass yards per attempt - 5.43
Passes intercepted - 10
Defensive passing efficiency - 98.70
Ole Miss:
CB1 - Senquez Golson
CB2 - Mike Hilton
CB3/Husky?(not sure if correct position name) - Tony Connor
Safety - Cody Prewitt
Safety - Trae Elston
Others - Kendarious Webster, AJ Moore, CJ Hampton, CJ Moore (let me know if I got them all or included too many)
Pass yards allowed - 2,251
Pass yards per game - 187.6
Pass TDs allowed - 8
Comp/Att - 213/365 or 58.36%
Pass yards per attempt - 6.17
Passes intercepted - 19
Defensive passing efficiency - 106.98
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:37 pm to GeauxPack81
UF's DBs >>>>>>> LSU & OM
VH3 >>>>>>>>>
UF = DBU
VH3 >>>>>>>>>
UF = DBU
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:37 pm to GeauxPack81
Ole Miss according to my eye test and the advanced metrics
Passing Defense S&P
3. Ole Miss
5. LSU
12. Florida
DB Havoc Rate
1. Florida
4. Ole Miss
13. LSU
LSU was good, Ole Miss was better.
Passing Defense S&P
3. Ole Miss
5. LSU
12. Florida
DB Havoc Rate
1. Florida
4. Ole Miss
13. LSU
LSU was good, Ole Miss was better.
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:37 pm to GeauxPack81
10-7
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:37 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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UF's DBs >>>>>>> LSU & OM
Don't think so, but clearly the Top 3 in the league
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:38 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
Oh, and UF has the most DBs in the NFL currently
And Joe Haden is the best CB in the nfl
Joe Haden >>>>>> Sherman >>>>>> Revis >>>>>> PP
And Joe Haden is the best CB in the nfl
Joe Haden >>>>>> Sherman >>>>>> Revis >>>>>> PP
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Did you create your own set of metrics? DB havoc rate would be interesting to see
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:39 pm to GeauxPack81
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LSU:
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Pass TDs allowed - 9
Passes intercepted - 10
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Ole Miss:
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Pass TDs allowed - 8
Passes intercepted - 19
Two most telling stats IMO. I'd say Ole Miss had the better season but I'm obviously biased..
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:39 pm to GeauxPack81
I wouldn't trade our group for any other.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:41 pm to DBU
Would have been great to see how the defense ended if they had RR21 and DT13 the whole year.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:41 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Henry Jones Jr
I think Ole Miss's DBs are very good, (in my own biased way I still rate LSU's on top), but I also think that they benefit from a much better pass rush compared to LSU.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:41 pm to GeauxPack81
This is without our best corner all year.......
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:42 pm to DBU
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I think Ole Miss's DBs are very good, (in my own biased way I still rate LSU's on top), but I also think that they benefit from a much better pass rush compared to LSU.
I'll agree with this.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:42 pm to GeauxPack81
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and DT13
While I loved having Thomas out there, losing him meant Jamal Adams imposing his will on the field.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:42 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:obviously
Two most telling stats IMO
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:42 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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And Joe Haden is the best CB in the nfl
He looked great getting beat by T.Y. Hilton
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:42 pm to Henry Jones Jr
What HJJ said. Its all about creating TOs and not giving up points. Who cares about yards
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:42 pm to GeauxPack81
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LSU
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Pass TDs allowed - 9
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Passes intercepted - 10
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Ole Miss:
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Pass TDs allowed - 8
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Passes intercepted - 19
OM>LSU
10-7
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:44 pm to cbi8
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Its all about creating TOs and not giving up points. Who cares about yards
Thats 2011 LSU in a nutshell. IIRC we gave up 500+ yards to WVU that year but we blew them out
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:44 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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UF's DBs >>>>>>> LSU & OM
Auburn's are better
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