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re: The dozen best defenses in SEC history
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:29 am to Bench McElroy
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:29 am to Bench McElroy
One platoon defenses shouldn't be compared to two platoon defenses. They weren't playing the same game.
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:30 am to stevo1905
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The 2011 Bama defense was the best I've ever seen.
and LSU's that year wasn't far behind.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:40 am to BigOrangeBri
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Shutting out 18 of 19 opponents over a two year period is unbelievable no matter the era.
This is laughable. Completely different game back in that time. You can't even compare the defenses now to the defenses then. I have a hard time believing that Tenn team would hold even one team nowadays to a shutout.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:50 am to SavageOrangeJug
Auburn 1957 should be on that list.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:55 am to Howyouluhdat
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Shutting out 18 of 19 opponents over a two year period is unbelievable no matter the era.
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This is laughable. Completely different game back in that time. You can't even compare the defenses now to the defenses then. I have a hard time believing that Tenn team would hold even one team nowadays to a shutout.
There are definitely differences in the game from then to now...still, nobody has done this since UT (over the last 75 years or so)...so it was still pretty damn special.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:03 am to BigOrangeBri
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Thats why you have to look at the numbers against the competition of that time. They speak for themselves.
Only a fool would take those numbers at face value. That goes for any defense prior to World War II as every team played both ways.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:05 am to madmaxvol
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still, nobody has done this since UT (over the last 75 years or so)...so it was still pretty damn special.
That's because the rules don't allow defenses to do that now. In the 1920s and 30s the game was HEAVILY slanted toward the defense. The game has evolved since then - which is why you don't see teams scoring 8 or 9 shutouts every season now.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:15 am to RollTide1987
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still, nobody has done this since UT (over the last 75 years or so)...so it was still pretty damn special.
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That's because the rules don't allow defenses to do that now. In the 1920s and 30s the game was HEAVILY slanted toward the defense. The game has evolved since then - which is why you don't see teams scoring 8 or 9 shutouts every season now.
Yes...but those rules really didn't change for another 20 years of so after this happened. The offenses didn't start to open up until the mid to late 50's.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:24 am to Korin
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I'm not disrespecting them at all, but they DID get clownstomped in the game that mattered the most.
This is a ranking of the defenses, not the entire team.
They gave up 384 yards and 21 points while spending over 35 minutes on the field. It wasn't their best performance, but the defense played fine in that game.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:26 am to SavageOrangeJug
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best defenses in SEC history
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Ole Miss (2014)
Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:02 pm to RollTide1987
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Only a fool would take those numbers at face value. That goes for any defense prior to World War II as every team played both ways.
Actually, no. That's what we have. Compare them to the competition. Also, in the mid 30s rules were implemented that helped make the passing game more like the version we know now. You can't compare eras.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:40 pm to SavageOrangeJug
Why is Arkansas even on the list. That was against Southwest conference. OM 1959 Defense should be #1
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:02 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Also, in the mid 30s rules were implemented that helped make the passing game more like the version we know now.
Yeah...they allowed the offense to throw more than one pass in a series of downs without penalty. Before 1934, if you passed the ball more than once during a series you were penalized five yards.
A QB couldn't leave the pocket to throw the football until 1945. Unless your QB was as slippery as a snake, if the DL got behind the OL your QB was taking a sack.
Offensive linemen couldn't extend their arms even halfway to pass block until 1976. That's why teams really didn't throw the football that much until the 1980s when full extension of the arms was allowed in pass blocking.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:38 pm to RollTide1987
Interesting set of rules. I had no idea.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:57 pm to RollTide1987
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Offensive linemen couldn't extend their arms even halfway to pass block until 1976. That's why teams really didn't throw the football that much until the 1980s when full extension of the arms was allowed in pass blocking.
In that case, let's just throw out everything before the 1980s because it was "different"
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:58 pm to RollTide1987
They also changed a rule that said if there was an incomplete pass in the endzone it was a loss of possession.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 3:01 pm to BammerDelendaEst
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Auburn 1957 should be on that list.
As should Auburn 88 and probably Auburn 2004.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 3:09 pm to SavageOrangeJug
that was a cool read..
thanks for posting
thanks for posting
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