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Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:09 am to MullenBoys
Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:09 am to MullenBoys
As for the OP, he said he did not want to get into discussions. If what you took from that is that Dak is going to get benched, then I'm not sure what to tell you.
They're looking at the possibility of trading Romo, so they're trying to keep his value up in the eyes of other teams, as well as be respectful.
As for those who assume Jerry is still running things, that does not appear to be the case. If you want more info on that, you'll have to dig into it yourself or check with the MSB
They're looking at the possibility of trading Romo, so they're trying to keep his value up in the eyes of other teams, as well as be respectful.
As for those who assume Jerry is still running things, that does not appear to be the case. If you want more info on that, you'll have to dig into it yourself or check with the MSB
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:08 am to Kodar
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I know you're going to get blasted due to the unpopular opinion, but you're right in a lot of ways.
People like the simple, emotional, Skip Bayless type narratives. The downvotes will happen and those brave enough to respond will only do so with Skip Bayless type narratives. Any context and nuance is beyond people that find what I said overwhelmingly offensive. Even if you disagree with the overall arching theme I presented, you'd still have to concede the logic and truths behind it. Those logics and truths may bring someone to a different opinion, but the Skip Baylesses of the world will reject it on it's face based on one logical fallacy they invent and call it a day.
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I've been watching/keeping track of the Cowboys for years, and Romo is vastly underrated. Dak has been solid, no doubt, but he's also been overrated so far imo.
Dak's had a phenomenal rookie year, but there is a reason no rookie QB has ever won the Super Bowl, and there is a reason that most rookies that have breakout years have a sophomore slump once the league learns their tendencies.
Experience matters. It does. Dak showed some crazy upside, but that doesn't mean his rookieness wasn't littered all over his play. The Cowboys had 62 offensive plays. Let's ask ourselves what kind of QB situations are not limited by someone's physical abilit, which Dak has in spades, but his experience.
How many times did Dak get to the line and check in to the wrong play? Not even the wrong play, but just not the best play?
How many times did he have time for one more read, but he's unfamiliar with the pressure, and he checked it down anyway?
How many times did he escape the pocket for a quick run instead of looking down field?
How many times did he overthrow or underthrow a ball that could have lead to more YAC because he doesn't have the timing down completely?
How many times did he miss a receiver we just didn't see?
Maybe he didn't make all of these mistakes, but he certainly made some.
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I do think that if Romo had started earlier in the season and was given the team again, they're better overall, and likely win Sunday.
The only reason I would disagree with that is the Country Club atmosphere within the organization. Players know they can appeal to Jerry, and Jerry tells Jason what to do. If there was a Bill Belicheck type whose authority was absolute and vision unwavering, then absolutely. I think the players would have been able to say, "hey Romo probably is better and coach knows best". That type of scenario doesn't exist within the Cowboys organization and if Romo went back in, the locker room would have been a mess because it would have felt like it fricked with the momentum, and that basically would have made it reality.
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This idea that Dak is already better than Romo is just silly.
Correct, but the players loved what was working. The players didn't know best.
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He may be better than Romo with time, but he's not there yet.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:27 am to TeLeFaWx
Romo will end up crippled if he plays a full time role in the NFL again.
He is not a big game QB.
What you saw this season in Dallas was a culmination of drafts for offense. They need to refocus to defensive line, and play the free agent market.
Jerry Jones is a fricking clown.
He is not a big game QB.
What you saw this season in Dallas was a culmination of drafts for offense. They need to refocus to defensive line, and play the free agent market.
Jerry Jones is a fricking clown.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:28 am to MullenBoys
thats a whole lot of article for this one line
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Don’t want to get into those discussions,
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:30 am to TeLeFaWx
quote:Agreed.
People like the simple, emotional, Skip Bayless type narratives.
quote:Absolutely. I also don't want to sound like I think Dak was bad by any means. When I said overrated, I meant to the point of saying he's already surpassed vets in the league. For a rookie, he's been fantastic.
Dak's had a phenomenal rookie year, but there is a reason no rookie QB has ever won the Super Bowl, and there is a reason that most rookies that have breakout years have a sophomore slump once the league learns their tendencies.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a bit of a slump next season as well, but that's kind of expected.
quote:Also agreed. Some mistakes I thought to myself, a vet would generally avoid that mistake. That's not a shot at Dak, that's just a matter of experience.
Maybe he didn't make all of these mistakes, but he certainly made some.
quote:Oh yeah. I understand why they stuck with Dak, because it makes a lot of sense based on chemistry at the time and what not.
That type of scenario doesn't exist within the Cowboys organization and if Romo went back in, the locker room would have been a mess because it would have felt like it fricked with the momentum, and that basically would have made it reality
quote:It is what it is. The future is bright though for Dallas at least.
Correct, but the players loved what was working. The players didn't know best.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:31 am to CoachDon
quote:What? Do people just get their football knowledge from Facebook and run with it?
He is not a big game QB.
quote:Who also isn't running shite near as much as people think.
Jerry Jones is a fricking clown.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:35 am to MullenBoys
It is simply a way to boost the trade value for Romo.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:35 am to CoachDon
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CoachDon
Lmao
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:40 am to Kodar
ELIMINATION GAMES Cmp Att Cmp% TD INT
2006 Playoffs vs SEA 17 29 58.6% 1 0
2007 Playoffs vs NYG 18 36 50.0% 1 1
2008 WK17 vs PHI 21 39 53.9% 0 1
2009 Playoffs vs PHI 23 35 65.7% 2 0
2009 Playoffs vs MIN 22 35 62.9% 0 1
2011 WK17 vs NYG 29 37 78.4% 2 1
2012 WK17 vs WAS 20 37 54.1% 2 3
Totals 150 248 60.5% 8 7
2006 Playoffs vs SEA 17 29 58.6% 1 0
2007 Playoffs vs NYG 18 36 50.0% 1 1
2008 WK17 vs PHI 21 39 53.9% 0 1
2009 Playoffs vs PHI 23 35 65.7% 2 0
2009 Playoffs vs MIN 22 35 62.9% 0 1
2011 WK17 vs NYG 29 37 78.4% 2 1
2012 WK17 vs WAS 20 37 54.1% 2 3
Totals 150 248 60.5% 8 7
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:41 am to David Ricky
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Lmao
How's Romo in elimination games. Those are "BIG GAMES" still correct?
Yeah, I'll hang up and listen. And please, answer the actual question.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:48 am to CoachDon
How convenient to leave out 2014.
Also, is this where we pretend that those old teams had an OL even remotely close to the one of present day?
Romo was successful in spite of the dogshit around him. When it came time for the playoffs, he can only carry so much. Those old OL are nothing like those of today. There's a reason he got the shite beat out of him. You think Dak does better?
Also, is this where we pretend that those old teams had an OL even remotely close to the one of present day?
Romo was successful in spite of the dogshit around him. When it came time for the playoffs, he can only carry so much. Those old OL are nothing like those of today. There's a reason he got the shite beat out of him. You think Dak does better?
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:51 am to Kodar
Oh and since you're at it, here's his overall playoff performance.
In 6 games:
114 185 61.62% 1316 yds 8 TD 2 int with a 93.0 rating.
Are you done now? Or is your arbitrary frame of time not working so well?
And to further my point, in 2014 when the OL was actually good, he didn't throw a pick. His rating vs. Detroit was 114, and 143.6 @ GB.
In 6 games:
114 185 61.62% 1316 yds 8 TD 2 int with a 93.0 rating.
Are you done now? Or is your arbitrary frame of time not working so well?
And to further my point, in 2014 when the OL was actually good, he didn't throw a pick. His rating vs. Detroit was 114, and 143.6 @ GB.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 9:53 am
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:55 am to CoachDon
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How's Romo in elimination games. Those are "BIG GAMES" still correct?
Yeah, I'll hang up and listen. And please, answer the actual question.
Highest 4th quarter QB rating in NFL history. 93 QB rating in the postseason, 4/1 TD:INT ratio.
What is it with Kentucky fans and their atrocious hot takes on football? Lol
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:00 am to David Ricky
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What is it with Kentucky fans and their atrocious hot takes on football? Lol
I don't think it's all of them, but he just got wrecked bigly.Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:02 am to Kodar
And the thread got the anchor. Been fun.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:38 am to Kodar
Romo dick riders...the greatest.
You and your boyfriend still haven't told me how Romo does in elimination games? You know, the next step to actually doing something...aka BIG GAME.
frickin girls...
You and your boyfriend still haven't told me how Romo does in elimination games? You know, the next step to actually doing something...aka BIG GAME.
frickin girls...
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:37 am to CoachDon
Lol stick to basketball
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:25 pm to CoachDon
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Romo will end up crippled if he plays a full time role in the NFL again.
Maybe. But the chances that Dak was going to go through Rodgers, Ryan and Brady without having extended stretches of rookie moments that were going to take the Cowboys out of the game was less than Romo staying healthy.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:22 pm to CoachDon
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How's Romo in elimination games. Those are "BIG GAMES" still correct?
Really good. You know nothing about football if you think otherwise.
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