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re: The best estimate for OM's penalties I have seen thus far....

Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:37 am to
Posted by FishFearMe
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Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:37 am to
Regardless of who did what, Freeze will end up getting the blame.

There will be somebody on the coaching staff only too willing to "stab Freeze in the back" to take over his spot. Even if it is temporary.

Freeze will be history soon.

Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:41 am to
Going by your examples, I would have to agree with those figures. The only problem is that we all know how inconsistent the NCAA is with these things. We really don't know what they will do. They may have absolutely no balls left or they may come out and completely destroy any chance OM has of being contenders for a very long time.

If I had to guess (and that's all any of us are doing) it will likely be around 25 scholarships over 5 years, likely at least a 1 year bowl ban (possibly 2 but not highly likely, maybe 35 to 40% chance), and likely some show causes for some staff members (will Freeze be one of them? Possibly, but not 100% guaranteed), probation for several years is a guarantee.

This is all based on IF there isn't anything else coming down the road. Unfortunately for OM it seems at least very plausible that there is more. Too much smoke is being put out there right now by people who have been pretty accurate so far. If more does come, it will be very bad for OM. I can't see how any of the current staff could possibly keep their jobs if even more comes out, but once again, currently it's all just speculation as there has been no definitive proof anymore is coming.
Posted by DistrictDawg
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:58 am to
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The only problem is that we all know how inconsistent the NCAA is with these things. We really don't know what they will do. They may have absolutely no balls left or they may come out and completely destroy any chance OM has of being contenders for a very long time.


The NCAA has already pulled their nuts out and placed them on OM's forehead. This happened when the NCAA sent the NOA to OM the week of signing day and leaked it to various reporters. Coincidences like that don't just happen, especially when they had been gathering info for the NOA against OM for 5 years dating back to 2010. They released it when they did for one reason, to hurt Ole Miss as much as they could before officially handing down their punishment.

What did Ole Miss do about this tea bag from the NCAA? They looked up at the balls, punched them and ran while the NCAA was on the ground. Thing is, the NCAA is faster than OM and will catch them, even more angry then before the nut punch. OM can run, but they can't hide.
Posted by tOGLettuce
Out Yonder
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 1:19 am to
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68476 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 2:08 am to
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The NCAA has already pulled their nuts out and placed them on OM's forehead. This happened when the NCAA sent the NOA to OM the week of signing day and leaked it to various reporters. Coincidences like that don't just happen, especially when they had been gathering info for the NOA against OM for 5 years dating back to 2010.
2012 actually. And yeah, it has happened before and nothing came of it. Keep fighting the good fight though
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 2:16 am to
Coach34, did you ever find a new job?
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 5:23 am to
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What happens if say we get 20 over 4 and 3-4 probation. No bowl ban and no showies?

I will laugh at Ole Miss and Rev. Freeze.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:25 am to
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That's basically a death penalty. They would never recover from that



the act of recovering from something implies that they are getting back a high form of achievement. considering ole miss has never won an sec west title its more like returning to their natural habit.

i mean this is the school that is so pathetic they have the corneal reb is crying video
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38119 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:44 am to
quote:

24-36 scholarships
4 years of probation
2 year bowl ban
Show Causes for: Nix and Harris
Suspensions for: Kiffin, Freeze, and Matt Luke


I think all this is warranted, but I'll go ahead and cut this in half just because I don't think the NCAA will give them, basically, a death penalty.

12-18 schollies
2 year probation
1 year bowl ban

still a pretty harsh punishment
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:57 am to
Corneal reb?!
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4415 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:19 am to
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I would tell you.... thanks for the back handed compliment, from an Ole Miss fan, it means a lot.


Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it's pretty evident this is all you're looking for, that is, responses from "rustled" ole miss fans.

quote:

I would also tell you that it's no "Narrative", just fact based inferences.


No, it actually is a "Narrative".

But regardless, your FIRST POST is filled with MOSTLY factual information. Some of it is opinion too. The ~20+ posts following has just been you spewing bullshite with the intent that an Ole Miss fan agree with you..... which I did..... in which you just started spewing more bullshite like this:

quote:

I have also had a lot of fun educating you frickers
Posted by rebsfan10
Member since Dec 2013
1564 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:40 am to
I wonder if there's ever been another school as desperate as State is with regards to hoping a rival gets the hammer from the NCAA. The thing is, if we do it doesn't really make State any better. The players we've been getting will go to Bama or LSU so they'll be even more dominant and State will remain the same. Even without a football program, State will still carry the little brother inferiority complex so I just don't get why y'all are so invested in what happens to Ole Miss.
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4415 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:58 am to
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AND at the least Maurice Harris will receive a 1 year show cause.

Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4415 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:58 am to
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AND at the least Maurice Harris will receive a 1 year show cause.

Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
59443 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:24 am to
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I wonder if there's ever been another school as desperate as State is with regards to hoping a rival gets the hammer from the NCAA

Yes, ole miss back in 2003 with MSU & Jackie Sherrill at the helm
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:27 am to
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Adding all 4 parts together for a final estimate:

24-36 scholarships
4 years of probation
2 year bowl ban
Show Causes for: Nix and Harris
Suspensions for: Kiffin, Freeze, and Matt Luke





yeah it won't be anywhere near that. Wow delusion has taken over the Bullies
Posted by WRedmondsStang
Member since Sep 2012
460 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:39 am to
15 over 3
4 yrs probation
However many games suspended for Freez to enable Bama past a coach-less OM

Biggest problem is you have to once again play by the rules, therefore, back to the Rebel program of say 5 yrs ago
Posted by rebsfan10
Member since Dec 2013
1564 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:46 am to
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Yes, ole miss back in 2003 with MSU & Jackie Sherrill at the helm


The 2003 Ole Miss football team went 10-3 and was a missed field goal away (by a lou groza aware winning kicker), from taking LSU to overtime to win the SEC west. That LSU team ended up winning the National Championship. That Ole Miss team also had a guy named Eli Manning who finished 3rd in the Heisman and went #1 overall in the draft. And also, Ole Miss beat State 31-0 that year. But yes, all of the focus was on what was going on at State.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59443 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:47 am to
yes

In fact, your cutesy little rivals guy had a site dedicated to it called eggbowl.com.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 9:51 am
Posted by TSUNgummybear
In Denial
Member since Jan 2013
496 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:04 am to
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Yes, ole miss back in 2003 with MSU & Jackie Sherrill at the helm


You're better than this. Get yo facts straight dawg.
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