re: The 3 missing SEC charter members

How long will it take Miss State to catch up to Tulane's SEC championships?

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Sewanee - was home of the Iron Men which may be the greatest college football team of all time. With an emphasis on academics had they remained in the SEC the current academic status of the SEC would be more in line with the ACC. On the downside it would have put 3 schools in TN and after WW II with the GI Bill the Vols would have the greatest advantage for sports because of size and living alumni.

Tulane - Originally the top team in LA and founder of the Sugar Bowl. Their stadium at one time was one of the top stadiums in the country and they were coached by the legendary Bernie Beirnabum (who is still the only D I coach in college football to 3 peat a MNC) and were the football school in LA. They once turned down a Rose Bowl invite before WW II because the time and travel to the west coast would interfere with their students studies (I think Bama went in their place and won) so like Vandy and Sewanee they were an academics first school. Fast forward to today and like the Vols, the Tigers as the state school in LA, would have a decided size and financial advantage being the state school in LA.

Georgia Tech - With 3 MMC's under 3 different coaches in the early history of the SEC the Yellow Jackets may have fallen the farthest by leaving the SEC. The Dawgs have not only come to dominate the state but they own GT's home in Atlanta. Unlike Sewanee and Tulane the Yellow Jackets were a state school and would probably dominate Georgia today the way the Dawgs dominate GT. Bobby Dodds spoke privately years later that leaving the SEC was a terrible decision and that GT would never be asked back. Clemson is now in the same boat as a declined invite from the SEC allowed USC in and they have been eating Clemson's lunch ever since.

In short, had all 3 remained the SEC would have a much better academic reputation. Tulane and Georgia Tech are both AAU schools and it would be interesting to see how academic standing might have turned out for Sewanee if they remained a D I school. The vast majority of current AAU schools are D I schools even though it is more even in public vs private composition.

On the other side, culling multiple schools from the states of GA, TN, and LA has allowed the remaining schools to become more competitive. Imagine of only Ole Miss or State had a monopoly of in state players for their sports programs. Taking the top half from each school into a combined singe team would be a bigger power than either as separate institutions.

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See, I'd like to believe all of that above, but because the bolded/italicized part is so incorrect, it makes me wonder about the rest.

Clemson has never received an invite from the SEC, and never will. Clemson did agree to depart the ACC in 1971 along with Carolina, but Clemson backed-out at the last minute without telling the Gamecock reps in Raleigh and it left SC holding the bag when they stepped forward to attempt the power play against the tobacco road crowd.

Clemson fans rejoiced thinking they had pulled a fast-one over on the Gamecocks, who would now be the first, and only, charter member of the ACC to bail on the conference ... but in the long run it paid-off for SC - obviously.

FSU is the one that received the invite from the SEC and turned it down because, as Bobby Bowden has stated many times ... he knew they couldn't be the big dogs, year-in and year-out, in the SEC.

With regard to the OP's question, if a bullfrog had wings he would not bump his arse on the ground when he hops and if my Aunt Michelle had balls she would be my Uncle Michael.

Swanee departed of their own free will, as did Tulane, because dumasses were in charge at the time ... it's the same reason SC floundered for years and years, because of poor leadership at the top. It's the same reason Tennessee is floundering now - poor leadership at the top. The difference between SC. UT, etc., and Swanee and Tulane is that the poor leadership at Swanee and Tulane were allowed to commit athletic department suicide for all intentional purposes. Vanderbilt ALMOST did it about a decade ago but the powers that be stepped-in and saved them - thanks to Roy Kramer (he was the powers that be), Vandy is still around and prospering like never before.

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Georgia Tech - With 3 MMC's under 3 different coaches in the early history of the SEC the Yellow Jackets may have fallen the farthest by leaving the SEC. The Dawgs have not only come to dominate the state but they own GT's home in Atlanta. Unlike Sewanee and Tulane the Yellow Jackets were a state school and would probably dominate Georgia today the way the Dawgs dominate GT. Bobby Dodds spoke privately years later that leaving the SEC was a terrible decision and that GT would never be asked back.

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Bobby Dodd was a great football coach but highly incompetent as Tech's AD. It got so bad that by the late 1970s GT was seriously considering dropping down to D-1AA ball and was playing basketball in the Metro Conference.

1899 =/= 100 years ago =/= when the SEC was first formed

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I guess you do not know your SEC history.

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You don't know who you're talking to, son.

That logic is so horrible, for multiple reasons, that I'm not going to even respond to it anymore.

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Vanderbilt ALMOST did it about a decade ago but the powers that be stepped-in and saved them - thanks to Roy Kramer (he was the powers that be), Vandy is still around and prospering like never before.

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First time I have heard about this. Can you provide more details?

At the time GT was a national powerhouse. Dodd wanted unlimited football scholarships and didn't want to split Bowl revenue. It's a matter of record in the NY Times. Just read the history...books have been written about the old SEC.

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First time I have heard about this. Can you provide more details?

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Vandy fired their AD, the Chancellor took over as the AD, they de-funded their Athletic Department and put it until the control of the academic powers-that-be, and they privately threatened to leave the conference. Instead Roy Kramer convinced them to ride it out, permanently appoint a "Vice Chancellor" to head-up their Athletic Department. Kramer helped them budget to improve facilities, pay for better coaches, and to promote their sports to their alumni. It's finally beginning to pay-off, but had it not been for Kramer Vandy may have, very well, fallen by the wayside like Swanee and Tulane.

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Why are we starting threads about these frickers all of a sudden?

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Offseason.

You can still start as many Saban fap threads as you want.