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Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:50 am to Cooter Davenport
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Most of the nastiest litigators in this state are Baylor attorneys.
And good Christian men, no doubt.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:14 am to beejon
As most everybody has said, it's just not likely in any rational sense. Forget the Texas perspective, barring some major reversals, they just don't have the SEC votes. The administrations know as much as we do, if not more, about how Texas operates. It's their job to keep an eye on other schools and their behavior. The Big 6, especially Bama and LSU, are not going to sit idly by while the SEC adds a new Big Boy. They know perfectly well what Texas' modus operandi is. Better than us, in fact. And Bama and LSU already competing with TAMU for Texas recruits. They're not going to let Texas schools completely lock up SEC recruiting in the state. UGA, UF, and USC aren't going to be down with adding a new in-state rival school. That just hasn't been done since the beginning. The second TAMU joined, Texas lost whatever potential ticket it had there. Arkansas, TAMU, and Missouri will be adamantly opposed, and since the SEC isn't a bitch-arse conference like the B12 or B10, the new members had full and equal rights the second they joined the conference.
The reasons go on and on, but the long and short of it is Texas just doesn't have the votes. Probably Vandy and Kentucky. Maybe Mississippi State. The revenue Texas would bring it would tempt the WAC or the AAC, but the SEC is already rich, and sitting pretty to get richer very soon. Texas is a big school, lots of money, decent academic reputation, yadda yadda. But none of these things would make them special in the SEC.
The reasons go on and on, but the long and short of it is Texas just doesn't have the votes. Probably Vandy and Kentucky. Maybe Mississippi State. The revenue Texas would bring it would tempt the WAC or the AAC, but the SEC is already rich, and sitting pretty to get richer very soon. Texas is a big school, lots of money, decent academic reputation, yadda yadda. But none of these things would make them special in the SEC.
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 10:15 am
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:15 am to beejon
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Think about it, in joining the SEC Texas would immediately bring a boatload of viewers and money to the conference if they were to join.
Texas vs BYU is the only game they've had on tv this year. It got a 1.0 rating. Btw, you can't blame their suckitude on those ratings as they hadn't lost yet and for some reason people had them ranked. That game was on ESPN2. There has only been 1 SEC game on ESPN2 so far this year and it was MSU vs Auburn. That got a 0.9 rating. Last year UTx did not have a single game in the top 10 tv ratings. Their highest rated game was Tex-OU and it got a 3.5 on ABC. It was the 3rd highest rated game that day (one on cable even beat it).
I think people greatly overestimate their general appeal because they spend so much time telling you how great they are. They are a good draw, better than average for sure. They make a lot of money for themselves. But they don't crush tv ratings and never really have. Really only ND does that.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 11:32 am to beejon
I have a confession to make. I've completely failed to see the level of deep seated hatred that A&M has for Texas.
Let me just say that I'm glad the aggies are now part of the SEC and Texas is on the outside looking in. I'd rather have A&M than Texas for a number of reasons, the first being they're truly thankful to be in the conference and out of the shadow of Texas after all these years. A&M is getting attention they've never gotten while associated with Texas and enjoying national prominence in their first years in the SEC.
The fact is though, whatever happens Texas isn't going to stand idly by and allow another team in the state to rise above them as A&M has done. Texas building a future with Baylor and a couple of other mid level Texas schools isn't going to bring them the national attention they demand. Even if Saban goes to Texas, that will probably be no more than 4-5 years of national attention and even then it will be in a second rate conference.
No doubt there would be many in the SEC who would oppose Texas coming into the conference. But when all this is reduced down to what matters, it always comes down to one thing....money. Follow the money. Show me the money. As the ole saying goes, money talks, BS walks.
Let me just say that I'm glad the aggies are now part of the SEC and Texas is on the outside looking in. I'd rather have A&M than Texas for a number of reasons, the first being they're truly thankful to be in the conference and out of the shadow of Texas after all these years. A&M is getting attention they've never gotten while associated with Texas and enjoying national prominence in their first years in the SEC.
The fact is though, whatever happens Texas isn't going to stand idly by and allow another team in the state to rise above them as A&M has done. Texas building a future with Baylor and a couple of other mid level Texas schools isn't going to bring them the national attention they demand. Even if Saban goes to Texas, that will probably be no more than 4-5 years of national attention and even then it will be in a second rate conference.
No doubt there would be many in the SEC who would oppose Texas coming into the conference. But when all this is reduced down to what matters, it always comes down to one thing....money. Follow the money. Show me the money. As the ole saying goes, money talks, BS walks.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 12:08 pm to beejon
If you let Texas in you would have to have two sets of rules, one for Texas and one for every other SEC team. They expect to be treated better than everyone else in the conference. For an example they would want 100 percent of the LHN and maybe two shares of the SEC network just because you are privileged to have them. Part of the problems in the Big 12 is because Texas wanted a bigger share of the TV money than the other schools.
Posted on 9/20/13 at 12:22 pm to MizBob
If Texas ever joined the SEC, start the countdown clock as the conference shelf life would be only 15-20 years.
Texas is the destroyer of conferences.
Texas is the destroyer of conferences.
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