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re: Texas Done w/ A&M Rivalry Unless "Compelling Reason" to Resume

Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:08 pm to
troof
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145254 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:08 pm to
game needs to take a break for a little while. relationship is too toxic
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:09 pm to
A&M please do not play the Longhorns. We want to slide into that spot!

I want Jeff Long to whisper sweet nothings into Texas' ears. Do you want to help counter your in-state players going to the SEC, want another national rivalry renewed for TV money, want to upgrade your OOC for the playoff system, want to also help hurt your in-state rival by sending us some of y'all's top players. Sure you hate Arkansas but you hate A&M even worse.

Arkansas is ready to sign when you are.

Please don't frick this up for us Aggies.

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:09 pm to
game of the century
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145254 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:10 pm to
have at it pigs
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:10 pm to
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MUCH bigger (Bama, AU, LSU )


Forrealdoe

It's like Sumlin has been saying: our recruiting is the best it's ever been in school history--and we're still 2nd or 3rd in our own damn DIVISION in that dept.

And yet we were still willing to keep the texas game when our prospects of winning were much worse. Texas wanted to punish us for moving and it's backfired on them so far. We can't afford to wait around while they continue to play silly games.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:11 pm to
tamu is sec now ...

frick the horns ...
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:11 pm to
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game of the century



It was the game of the century.

Two SWC teams played for the National Title in front of the President of the United States. Good luck from any fan base toping that on here.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:12 pm to
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have at it pigs



Please let this happen!
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70944 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:12 pm to
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they continue to play silly games.


the arrogance of UT is on another level

I jokingly say it's a Texas thing, but in my experience, it's been longhorns
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70944 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:13 pm to
that flyer says 2013
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:14 pm to
Be our guest
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:14 pm to
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that flyer says 2013



Can you read? I wonder why it says 2013.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145254 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:14 pm to
like my aggy said, be our guest
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:15 pm to


Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:16 pm to
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the arrogance of UT is on another level


It's their MO.

And honestly, it's been a huge catalyst in their historical success. Can't fault them for that, tbh.

The problem arose when they tried to apply that line of thinking to being a conference mate.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
96101 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:17 pm to
South Carolina and Florida don't seem to mind. And we have a worse schedule structure in the SEC ATM
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145254 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:18 pm to
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South Carolina and Florida don't seem to mind
and as gets said every time, we went to them, slive went to them, said we would play. they said frick off. so weve moved on
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42695 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:20 pm to
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That would be the smart thing for them to do. The reason they haven't tried yet is simply pride. Truth be told, Texas didn't believe TAMU would pull the trigger on an SEC move, and their administration has been in scramble mode dealing with it ever since their bluff was called. Simply put, all of their history of how they've done business with us over the years no longer applies to the current complexion of the rivalry, and they honestly don't know what to do with the new status quo.


It's an odd situation when an in-state school leaves its conference rival for another conference but it's happened before even in the opposite direction - when one school wanted to run the whole SEC.

**SEC History below**

GA Tech being a prime example of a school leaving because they thought they could run the entire conference (they left the SEC because their coach was in a long running feud with Bryant over various issues, but the official reason used by Tech is Bama and others were oversigning due to the 140 rule but Dodd had always refused to do that because he was so moral, but many believed Tech was looking for a reason to leave because they wanted to either run the conference completely or be their own boss).

When they left, Tech thought they'd become like Notre Dame and didn't realize they'd pissed a lot of programs off so much that many but not all of the great programs nearby - their former conference mates didn't want anything to do with them (notably both Auburn and Georgia wanted Tech to stay badly). But even before the split Tech was only scheduling 5 of 11 schools - completely ignoring those farther West and they were viewed as elitist.

Even though Dodd was right for being mad at Bryant over not punishing a player who clearly took a cheap shot that ended the playing days of a Tech player (Alabama return man had signaled a fair catch and the Tech player was pulling up/no threat to the return man when suddenly an Alabama player threw an elbow to the Tech player's jaw causing massive damage - fractured facial bones, 5 front teeth knocked out, fractured sinus, fractured nasal bone, fractured bone beneath his eye, concussion AND fractured skull at the base. Bear was heavily criticized by the national press over the incident and even by Alabama papers but the feud between coaches had gotten so strong that he refused to apologize or punish the player in any way.

But Dodd's biggest mistake was giving the SEC an ultimatum over the 140 rule. He said Tech would flat out he'd leave if the rule wasn't abolished. The irony is that according to most press the rule would've been abolished (the first time it lost 6-6 but more had come out against it the following year) but when Dodd laid down an ultimatum over it he spread bad blood throughout the conference.

As one writer put it, I know some athletic directors consider Tech’s position as a challenge. If we had voted a few weeks ago, there’s no doubt that the rule would have been rescinded. Now I’m truly convinced that the league won’t change the rule. I know some schools have changed their votes in the last few weeks.” The vote failed 11-0. Tech left and went from being a perennial player on the national scene to being a nobody in large part because Dodd thought he could lay down an ultimatum for everyone else.

Obviously UGA kept the rivalry intact but now Tech is poor and we are rich. And honestly UGA's longstanding rivalry for them is one of the few things keeping them relevant.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 6:22 pm
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
96101 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:21 pm to
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and as gets said every time, we went to them, slive went to them, said we would play. they said frick off. so weve moved on


I was saying that about Texas not wanting to play y'all fwiw.
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