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re: Texas AD Del Conte talks Education

Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5207 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:26 pm to
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Increase revenue he certainly did. In a HUGE way.


He did. But it's also necessary to view the situation in its entirety.

A&M's absurd expansion in enrollment is a big part of why the Leg was able to approve the capped enrollment at UT. The two schools are inextricably intertwined that way. And at some point A&M's growth will hit a breaking point and we will have to cap ourselves as well.

I have zero faith our state has any idea what to do when that day comes. Lots more qualified kids than even today are gonna end up out of state, and many won't come back.
Posted by In The Know
City of St George, La
Member since Jan 2005
5293 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:43 pm to
Buddy of mine went to Blinndergarten then A&M. Not that tough to do.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:45 pm to
That's the smart thing to do.
Posted by NawFoo
Member since Mar 2023
833 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by Bronco Calrissian
Member since Dec 2019
330 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:39 pm to
I think Jamaal is a McCombs grad.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19930 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:40 pm to
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We played Arkansas two years ago, you were at that game, it was the wildest game. I’m walking through the tunnel and I look over at Commissioner Sankey and he goes, ‘how about that?’ I go, ‘that was the greatest thing ever.’ We lost the game, we knew, but Steve also said here’s what we have to do to get prepared for that game. That game was fantastic because it gave us a barometer of what we need to do offensively and defensively on the lines. Gotta get big dudes.”



Is this the definition of the old saying of we beat them and made them like it?



It’s nice to be mentioned in a positive light, hats off to him.
Posted by NawFoo
Member since Mar 2023
833 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:41 pm to
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I think Jamaal is a McCombs grad.


I hate that they made his rivals interview from HS, private.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10915 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:57 pm to
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Cal, it’s UCLA, it’s Texas, it’s Michigan, sometimes (North) Carolina


All of those schools are known for enrolling next to no kids from in-state.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:58 pm to
Roughly 75% of UCLA students are CA residents.
Posted by Born2rock
Member since Oct 2022
921 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:00 pm to
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Yep. Meanwhile A&M is taking advantage of that fact and growing like crazy.



Yep….quantity over quality…thanks Rick.
Posted by NawFoo
Member since Mar 2023
833 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:13 pm to
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Yep….quantity over quality…thanks Rick.


They don't care. Large alumni base creates lots of money for the school and the athletic programs.
Posted by Doak Walker
Dallas
Member since Sep 2022
389 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:59 pm to
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You have to be top 6% of your high school to get into Texas.


Being in the top 6% of your class in Del Rio TX doesn't exactly make you Harvard material. There's about 1,000 other high schools in the state that are even worse. Even so, you misstated your thesis here. The rule is that top 6% are guaranteed admission, which accounts for about 75% of freshman enrollment. That's a whole bunch of 18-22 ACT scores.
I can guarantee you that for Texas kids, Georgia is much harder to get into than UT Austin, but that's the only SEC school in which this is the case.
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
1731 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:59 pm to
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Buddy of mine went to Blinndergarten then A&M. Not that tough to do.


The whole process is a bit of a farce. My co-worker (blisteringly proud Longhorn alum) saw his son get dinged as the young man finished in the third quarter of his class at a large, very respectable big city public school.

His kid did CAP, went to ACC, pledged a frat during that time, and then enrolled his second semester.

Now this would not be any big deal back in the 80s or 90s but now it is an example of the idiotic admission policy.
Posted by McNet
Member since Nov 2020
230 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 11:59 pm to
Only thing that really matters for public school undergrads is salary after graduation from Engineering, Sciences, and Business fields and what area or city you work at.

All those Liberal Arts, Education, Public Affairs, etc grads are basically the same from any halfway decent public school.
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 12:02 am
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
1466 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:15 am to
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You have to be top 6% of your high school to get into Texas. That eliminates 94% (stay with me here I know math is complicated) of the pool of applicants who want a great education from a top 10 public university

Krampus

There a lot of schools where a whole lot of the 94% getting shut out deserve the opportunity to matriculate at a top 10 public university.

Instead they get replaced by the least stupid mouthbreathers at Failing ISD Highs all across Texas who managed out outlast their meth addicted teenage parent classmates to make it across the graduation stage.

Not a dig at Texas, moreso the percantage based admission rules in Texas in general. But let's not pretend an entire student based largely class ranks alone is some holy grail of achievement. Texas could have a better, more competitive student body overall without the dumbass Top x% rule.


Krampus, we addressed this in a previous thread, you &%^* POS. At least you didn't mention racist rhetoric this time.

Not everyone (75% of Texas counties are still rural) is lucky enough to be born into a privileged existence that includes multi-generation college educated parents and the opportunity to go to $100 million high schools that build $70 million football stadiums. Deserve the opportunity? Please, they were born on 3rd base.

My Sr year in HS ('74) I took typing w/ a bunch of freshman because I had already taken all the math & science classes offered. My HS counselor thought they were doing us a disservice by teaching us college prep courses instead of auto shop, drafting & home economics.

I wanted to go to college, and I knew Stanford, Cornell & Princeton were good schools, but only because Jim Plunkett, Ed Marinaro & Bill Bradley played college sports there. That was about all I knew about them, so I kept the letters they sent me.

I got lucky. Texas found and recruited me, and gave me and ~100 others scholarships. I struggled, but graduated. In 1997, Texas passed the "Top 10% Law", based on the program UT started in '74. I hope I've honored UT's foresight be reaching the top of my profession in the O&G Industry.

As for "Texas being a better, more competitive student body overall without the dumbass Top x% rule", well that is just something that a Top x% reject would never understand, and why others earned, and were given, the opportunity to attend.

BTW, UT's enrollment was capped before 1974, and not because of real estate. The Texas Constitution of 1876 directed the legislature to "establish..., a university of the first class, ... and styled "The University of Texas". "The State of Texas wanted more for their sons and daughters than to be limited to the "agriculture & mechanical arts." It wanted opportunities in business, law, medicine and the liberal arts. Nothing said about being the biggest.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
10282 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:29 am to
That’s the thing. In the Big 12 you guys were the big dog academics wise. Now you’re like 4th down the list no matter how prestigious you consider your degree. You’re behind Florida and Vandy for sure.
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5207 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:34 am to
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At least you didn't mention racist rhetoric this time.


I believe you have me confused with someone else.

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I got lucky. Texas found and recruited me, and gave me and ~100 others scholarships. I struggled, but graduated.


You didn't get lucky. You earned your spot based on 1974 admission criteria. Congratulations.

But it's not 1974 anymore. Standards for a top public university have changed. Earn your spot, or go somewhere else. You did it in your day, kids today should do it in theirs.

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well that is just something that a Top x% reject would never understand,


I earned auto-admission to any Texas public University I wanted. UT included. I only considered A&M and UT. I picked A&M. I can tell the story of how I reached my decision if you wish.

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BTW, UT's enrollment was capped before 1974, and not because of real estate


UT's enrollment is absolutely capped todue to real estate. Even your fellow horns don't dispute it.

All your arguments actually seem to favor A&M's current approach to admissions moreso than UT's. If all those deserving kids from poor to middling schools around Texas are so deserving of a spot at Texas, then why doesn't Texas expand enrollment like A&M and give more of them the opportunity you got? Very confusing take from you all around.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1762 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:09 am to
I can’t imagine being this old and still this insecure about internet message boards.

LOL at all the first class and top of profession bullshite.
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
1887 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:04 am to
Who ever said he was a few martinis in when he said that probably has a point. Watched his Finebaum interview that was in the afternoon. Out of all the interviews he was the only one that was slurring. Guy clearly likes to have a good time.
Posted by hookem33
Dripping Springs, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
1140 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:27 am to
Who cares? this is about football. I wish our boosters could grow a brain and hire a great football coach.
...but I dream.
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