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re: Tennessee (87) @ Auburn (77) SECN Final - 2H

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Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:30 pm to
Pearl's style is very feast or famine, and if you don't have mature players to go along with talented players, it can look really ugly if you have any off night.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:31 pm to
Underrated players are often some of best to get in recruiting because they're easily coachable
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:31 pm to
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I mean that is what you get with Bruce Pear. It's fine if he has players like Lofton who can bail them out on offense, but as far as half court offense goes it's abysmal to watch.


Yea, but those Tennessee teams he had (at least his peak ones) compensated for sloppy half court play with pressure and great inbounds defense. They created offense with defense.

This Auburn team doesn't seem to do that at all, and it's strange because it feels like they should be able to with their athletes and a pretty deep bench.

Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:32 pm to
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Pearl's style is very feast or famine, and if you don't have mature players to go along with talented players, it can look really ugly if you have any off night.


Yep - which is one of the reasons those first few teams he had with #BuzzBalls leftovers were so good. The perfect mix of mature, talented enough veterans with young athletic kids and one of the greatest shooters ever.
Posted by Nukeese
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:32 pm to
They just look uninterested out there, haven't watched enough Auburn to really judge them though
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:32 pm to
Suck Carolina, go sit in the corner. You fricks are more relevant in football.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:33 pm to
Been watching all game, Nice to see the Vols still playing well
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:35 pm to
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They just look uninterested out there, haven't watched enough Auburn to really judge them though


They play really, really young. They have some guys with raw talent, but their highly rated talent was pretty raw (Herron, Wiley, etc). GenesChin can correct me if I am wrong, but that's kind of the vibe I get (and seem to remember from recruiting reports on their guys). Just a really immature roster from a pure basketball sense. Obviously, that will improve with time and experience, but not quickly.

Plus, there isn't really any veteran presence on the entire roster. It's almost all young dudes.
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 9:36 pm
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:35 pm to
Auburn players refuse to pass and choose shitty shots instead of hooking a teammate out
Posted by Volatile
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:37 pm to
Heheheheh
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:37 pm to
Lamonte Turner is a useful player. Anyone know why he went to Tennessee over Auburn/Bama. He's from Florence, Al
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:38 pm to
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Auburn players refuse to pass and choose shitty shots instead of hooking a teammate out


Pearl's less mature teams have always had a lot of Gottfried traits. His teams very much rely on players to set the tone on the floor in terms of toughness, maturity to stick with the plan and intensity. I don't know if that is on purpose, but I vividly remember how different Pearl's teams at Tennessee looked from year to year based on who their leaders were.
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Nukeese
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:38 pm to
They need a Wayne Chism
Posted by Volatile
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:39 pm to
Chris Lofton and Ramar Smith and Wayne Chism.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:39 pm to
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Lamonte Turner is a useful player. Anyone know why he went to Tennessee over Auburn/Bama. He's from Florence, Al


Feel like maybe Grant recruited him pretty hard but when he left Avery didn't or something?

I could be totally off there, but I do remember us being involved with him.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:40 pm to
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They need a Wayne Chism


Exactly - guys like that were the difference in Pearl's early great teams and his soft late teams.

Those early Pearl teams were tough as shite. The late ones were baby arse soft. Like I said (and you guys obviously know), his system heavily relies on dudes on the floor setting the tone.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:40 pm to
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Auburn players refuse to pass and choose shitty shots instead of hooking a teammate out
When things don't go well out of the gate, they all start trying to win the game individually on offense and the bad shots lead to bad defense and things just snowball. Frustrating.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:41 pm to
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When things don't go well out of the gate, they all start trying to win the game individually on offense and the bad shots lead to bad defense and things just snowball. Frustrating.


But all part of inexperience and being young, especially when there isn't a guy to grab your neck in the huddle and tell you to SETTLE THE FRICK DOWN.

Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:41 pm to
Pearls offense gives players a ton of freedom to adapt to the defense

The result is if you have selfish players they see shots for themselves. If you have hard nosed players they take aggressive opportunities


Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:43 pm to
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The result is if you have selfish players they see shots for themselves. If you have hard nosed players they take aggressive opportunities


Yep. And, if you are inexperienced, sometimes you don't quite know the difference between the two, or when to be selfish and when not to be. Not an easy concept to grasp.

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