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re: Stanek vs. Wahl

Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13985 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:40 pm to
I don't see many runs being scored Fri or Sat. Mayers has better stats than Wahl and I think is just as good. We are having consistency issues on Sunday though.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Denver
Member since Feb 2013
5054 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:41 pm to
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Who is number #1?


No idea
Posted by TigerTilIDie85
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2013
154 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:43 pm to
North Carolina is #1 in most national polls I think...if that's what you're talking about
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96008 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:44 pm to
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North Carolina is #1 in most national polls I think...if that's what you're talking about


no he was asking what sec school had the lowest team ERA.

My vote for best pitcher in the SEC is probably Ziomek.
Posted by Ole Colonel 27
Member since Oct 2011
2453 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:44 pm to
I think he is talking about lowest team ERA.
Posted by TigerTilIDie85
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2013
154 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:45 pm to
Ahhh ok. Yeah I have no clue. One of these guru's does though I'm sure
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Denver
Member since Feb 2013
5054 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:48 pm to
State has the #1 ERA in the SEC

Hogs at #2
Posted by TigerTilIDie85
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2013
154 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:05 pm to
Yeah but the cake walks are over. This weekend will start showing where everybody really stands
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:09 pm to
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Then you should probably fire your hitting coach


I think Butler was given a raise last year because the Longhorns came after him and he is supposed to be a great recruiter. I really don't put the blame on the hitting coach (Butler) because when players get to college a coach really doesn’t want to change much in their approach because if they do, it would take all fall, and maybe more, to get the new approach to become muscle memory. By college a player is either a good hitter or he isn’t and a tweak here or a tweak there is really all a coach can do.

However, if the coaches are putting the hitters into bad situations like hit and runs that don’t work and takes that consistently get the batters in a hole; that could be a problem. With that being said I think Van Horne is still coaching 3rd so he is really calling the shots to the batter and they seem to be aggressive. The hits just aren’t falling…..right now. No doubt the Hogs do need to start getting key hits because they are stranding way too many runners and I believe they will.


This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 2:43 pm
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:34 pm to
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But let's say you have team A and team B, and they both have lights out aces on Friday. Like could be the 2 best pitchers in the country. Would it not be beneficial for one team (let's just say team A) to throw their Sunday starter on Friday? This would in effect be conceding Friday to team B, however, team A will now have their Friday ace pitching on Saturday against Team B's #2 guy, and their usual Saturday guy throwing on Sunday against team B's #3 guy. I'm sure it's never good to just concede a game, but you could basically drastically improve your chances at taking the series that way.



Yes and no. You could argue this, but since both coaches assume the other will pitch their ace, they both end up pitching their ace. It's self fulfilling in a way. Furthermore, since substitutions are possible in baseball, one coach could simply substitute his ace in or out after one pitch based on what the other coach does or will do.

It's game theory. Look it up.
Posted by Pragmatic PiG
Plumas County
Member since Nov 2012
758 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:40 pm to
DVH has put a concerted effort into pitching as far as his scholarship allotment goes. That's just his own decision which coincides with butler's approach that works pitchcounts of opposing hurlers, attempting to get into an opponents bullpen, testing out their depth.
I'd like to see hog hitters more aggressive earlier in the count but for the most part that will not happen with this regime unless the bats change again.
As far as Stanek goes, he will heat up as the weather does. He will be lights out in Omaha this year
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Yes and no. You could argue this, but since both coaches assume the other will pitch their ace, they both end up pitching their ace. It's self fulfilling in a way. Furthermore, since substitutions are possible in baseball, one coach could simply substitute his ace in or out after one pitch based on what the other coach does or will do. It's game theory. Look it up.


And which coach is going to "admit" that his ace isn't as good as the other team's ace? Great pitchers want to go against the other team's best and every pitcher on staff, in theory, believes he can do the job. If not he won't be playing long.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32396 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:45 pm to
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He will be lights out in Omaha this year




LULZ
Posted by Omahareb
Member since Jan 2013
182 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:03 pm to
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Stuart getting pitched around...
Yes he Thrives on first pitch fastballs,,Anderson can drive a inside pitch,outside pitch he hits it to the shortstop..good thing is he will not strike out.....Those are the only two I have been watching this year.got off topic..I pick whal in the match up on friday.but I like Mayers better on Friday nights but that wont happen
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Pragmatic PiG
Plumas County
Member since Nov 2012
758 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:24 pm to
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LULZ


Scared? You should be
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57809 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:43 pm to
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Who is your Sat starter?
My guess would be Killian. He's a freshy that's been a complete stud so far. Fant will likely start Sunday. He was nice in his first outing too.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65788 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:49 pm to
Killian > Stanek

I'd rather see Killian vs Wahl on Friday to be honest, Stanek is no longer our best pitcher.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57809 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:54 pm to
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Stanek is no longer our best pitcher.
I just...I don't even....

It's not even SEC play yet.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
9634 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:57 pm to
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Stanek is not our best pitcher at the moment.


FIFY
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65788 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:09 pm to
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I just...I don't even....



Killian is off to the greatest start a Razorback pitcher has ever had to begin his Razorback career.

A 22/1 K:BB is just stupid.

Freshman RHP Trey Killian through 4 appearances, 3 starts: 2-1, 0.86 ERA, 21.0 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 22 K, .088 opponent batting avg.

Kid is going to be the best pitcher we've seen since Nick Schmidt.
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