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re: Spurrier to Saban: Play TN as a Non-Conference Game
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:21 am to bgator85
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:21 am to bgator85
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It looks like it has happened once since 1990. In 2010, they played Penn State and Duke. In the 90's, they only played a team from a major conference 3 times OOC.
Thanks for the research.
Bama's OOC is good.
But it doesn't hang with any of the other teams that strive for top of the conference (nation) aspirations.
I wish Gumps would call a spade a spade.
Their OOC scheduling is worse than Auburn.
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:27 am to genro
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That's assuming A&M would've beaten UT. And then it would only be true because LSU had to play Florida instead of UT. So we're back to square one and things are still uneven.
With all due respect, you don't seem to understand how the SEC schedules non-divisional games and how those games affect divisional titles.
The SEC uses what is called the 6-1-1 scheduling format. Six divisional games, one rotating non-divisional game, and one permanent non-divisional game.
Presently, Bama is guaranteed a win against cupcake Tennessee, while LSU splits their games on average against perennial power Florida.
So, where is your proof that there is no advantage between playing a perennial SEC power and a perennial SEC cupcake?
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:28 am to meansonny
quote:It's better than UGA's.
Their OOC scheduling is worse than Auburn.
Are you really a UGA fan? Because this is weird coming from a UGA fan. UGA has MANY years where their only real OOC opponent is their shitty rival GT.
The most recent example. fricking 2012.
Am I being punked?
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:30 am to Sheetbend
quote:False.
Bama is guaranteed a win against cupcake Tennessee
quote:Also false.
LSU splits their games on average against perennial power Florida
There have been many seasons where UT is better than UF
In fact historically UT is a much better program than UF.
Sorry that for just the last few years UT has sucked.
Even now, UF is not a perennial power. They were mediocre in 2010 and 2011.
Basically you're bitching about one season.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:35 am to genro
I think sheet is either a Vandy fan that let one game go to his head or a 12 year old. Then again, that's being a bit hard on Vandy fans and 12 year olds.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:36 am to genro
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There have been many seasons where UT is better than UF
They have beaten us 6 times since 1976, it has been a long time since UT has been consistently better than us for any length of time.
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It's better than UGA's.
And this is just insane. I suggest you go and look at what other SEC teams are scheduling and compare it to what Bama has done. 2012 was a clear outlier for UGA scheduling.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 2:40 am
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:39 am to genro
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Am I being punked?
Sounds like you're trolling.
You really want to get into a debate about UGA's OOC scheduling?
Your computer doesn't have the bandwidth.
Hell. In 2009 alone, we played @ Oklahoma State and @ Georgia Tech and played Arizona State at home.
In 1 season, we match your OOC AQ total for 3 years.
In that same 1 season, we match your OOC AQ Away game total going back a dozen years.
And we have 2 AQ OOC games all the time.
2013 we play @ Clemson and @ GT
2010 @ Boulder and GT
2009 @ Ok St, @ GT, and ASU at home
2008 @ Arizona State and GT
2007 Ok St and @ GT
2006 Colorado and GT
2003 @ Clemson and @ GT
2002 Clemson and GT
And that doesn't even include the 2 games against Boise St.
Oh well. They all can't be ULM.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 2:40 am
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:47 am to meansonny
quote:Sure.
You really want to get into a debate about UGA's OOC scheduling?
quote:That doesn't even make sense. Computers don't have bandwith, networks do.
Your computer doesn't have the bandwidth.
quote:Good season.
Hell. In 2009 alone, we played @ Oklahoma State and @ Georgia Tech and played Arizona State at home.
quote:False. Check your shite.
In 1 season, we match your OOC AQ total for 3 years.
quote:Also false.
In that same 1 season, we match your OOC AQ Away game total going back a dozen years.
quote:Except for when you don't?
And we have 2 AQ OOC games all the time. 2013 we play @ Clemson and @ GT 2010 @ Boulder and GT 2009 @ Ok St, @ GT, and ASU at home 2008 @ Arizona State and GT 2007 Ok St and @ GT 2006 Colorado and GT 2003 @ Clemson and @ GT 2002 Clemson and GT
Ok so once again, you follow the LSU model.
Some really hard seasons, some really easy ones.
Whereas Bama will just play moderately hard every single year.
Why is your way better? Since it's impossible to go undefeated every season, it seems like setting yourself up with really easy seasons is the way to go.
quote:Do you want me to list the midmajor cupcakes Georgia plays? Buffalo? Florida Atlantic? Georgia Southern? That's just in 2012 alone. Why would you play that card when you know EVERY single team has midmajor cupcakes? Really just an awful attempt at an insult.
Oh well. They all can't be ULM.
Unless you were referencing the fact that Bama actually lost to ULM, in which case your insult is totally undermined by this small detail:
quote:Whoops.
Boise St.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:52 am to bgator85
quote:Hell I've been asking for this all thread
I suggest you go and look at what other SEC teams are scheduling and compare it to what Bama has done.
I even listed this*:
2008: #9 Clemson in Atlanta
2009: #7 V Tech in Atlanta
2010: #18 Penn State at home
2011: at #23 Penn State
2012: #8 Michigan in Dallas
*These were the rankings at the time the game was played!
And asked who can show me an OOC that's clearly better?
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:54 am to genro
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Bama is guaranteed a win against cupcake Tennessee False.
Bama is 8-0 against Tennessee--FACT. I don't think you want to bet against that trend ending anytime soon.
Florida is also 8-0 against Tennessee--FACT.
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LSU splits their games on average against perennial power Florida Also false.
LSU is 5-5 against Florida--FACT.
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Sorry that for just the last few years UT has sucked.
Bama is 8-0, and Florida is 8-0 against Tennessee. The Vols have very little in-state talent and can't compete with the SEC perennial powers.
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Even now, UF is not a perennial power. They were mediocre in 2010 and 2011. Basically you're bitching about one season.
Since 2001, Florida has won 85% of their SEC East divisional games. The Gators won the BCS in 2006 & 2008. Florida has the best recruiting program in the SEC East and the best coaching staff.
Every one of your points are wrong!
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:56 am to genro
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2008: #9 Clemson in Atlanta
2009: #7 V Tech in Atlanta
2010: #18 Penn State at home
2011: at #23 Penn State
2012: #8 Michigan in Dallas
I presume by placing your rankings on there that Better means Tougher.
And tougher means on the road.
In 5 seasons, you go on the road AQ one time.
The time previous to that was @ Duke.
The time previous to that was over a decade ago.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:57 am to Sheetbend
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Bama is 8-0 against Tennessee--FACT.
What kind of idiot puts "fact" in all caps on something that can be proven wrong really easily?
Posted on 6/8/13 at 3:01 am to genro
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What kind of idiot puts "fact" in all caps on something that can be proven wrong really easily?
I do that for the hard of seeing, your welcome!
Posted on 6/8/13 at 3:06 am to meansonny
Using your stupid method of at the time they played...
2013 @ #9 Clemson. @ Georgia Tech
2012 GT
2011 #5 Boise St (Atlanta). @ #23 GT
2010 @ Colorado GT
2009 @ #9 Oklahoma State Arizona State @ #7 GT
2008 @ Arizona State #22 GT
So in your rules. And in your selected time period, we faced an equal number of ranked opponents.
However, our best ranked opponent was better than your best.
Our 2nd best ranked opponent was better than your 2nd best ranked opponent (and on the road).
Our 3rd best ranked opponent equalled the same ranking as your best ranked opponent... Only ours was on the road.
Your 4th best ranked opponent is ranked higher than our 4th best ranked opponent.
Our 5th best ranked opponent is ranked equal to yours (both on the road, as well).
What a dumb illustration that is.
Going back over the last 5 seasons, we traveled on the road AQ 5 times to your 1.
We played higher ranked opponents, also.
And our 2nd game was exponentially better than your second game in every season but 2012 where we were equal.
2013 @ #9 Clemson. @ Georgia Tech
2012 GT
2011 #5 Boise St (Atlanta). @ #23 GT
2010 @ Colorado GT
2009 @ #9 Oklahoma State Arizona State @ #7 GT
2008 @ Arizona State #22 GT
So in your rules. And in your selected time period, we faced an equal number of ranked opponents.
However, our best ranked opponent was better than your best.
Our 2nd best ranked opponent was better than your 2nd best ranked opponent (and on the road).
Our 3rd best ranked opponent equalled the same ranking as your best ranked opponent... Only ours was on the road.
Your 4th best ranked opponent is ranked higher than our 4th best ranked opponent.
Our 5th best ranked opponent is ranked equal to yours (both on the road, as well).
What a dumb illustration that is.
Going back over the last 5 seasons, we traveled on the road AQ 5 times to your 1.
We played higher ranked opponents, also.
And our 2nd game was exponentially better than your second game in every season but 2012 where we were equal.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 3:08 am to Sheetbend
It's only been 6 straight against UT. It's quite easy to remember because if we win this season, it will match the 7 straight that they beat us during the Fulmer years. Those were rough years. I don't remember anyone bitching about scheduling then but UT was a powerhouse and Bama was a cupcake.
Fulmer fricked our program over royally and put Bama through the worst period in their history. I hate those motherfrickers with a passion.
No one wanted to end the rivalry when they were dominating and we were getting our shite kicked in. You can understand why we don't wanna end the rivalry just because the shoe's on the other foot.
Fulmer fricked our program over royally and put Bama through the worst period in their history. I hate those motherfrickers with a passion.
No one wanted to end the rivalry when they were dominating and we were getting our shite kicked in. You can understand why we don't wanna end the rivalry just because the shoe's on the other foot.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 3:12 am to meansonny
So maybe Georgia's OOC is marginally better than Bama's? 
It's still pretty ridiculous to say Bama is nothing but cupcake city, no?
It's still pretty ridiculous to say Bama is nothing but cupcake city, no?
Posted on 6/8/13 at 3:17 am to meansonny
Meansonny, you and I have been wasting our time talking to genro.
He is talking foolishness and doesn't care about facts.
He is talking foolishness and doesn't care about facts.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 3:28 am to genro
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It's still pretty ridiculous to say Bama is nothing but cupcake city, no?
I said middle of the pack.
In 6 seasons, UGA will have 7 OOC AQ road games to your 1 during that same time span. 4 of those OOQ AQ Away opponents are ranked that we play. Some... very, very high.
As I said... call a spade a spade.
Auburn goes on the road.
Auburn schedules 2 AQ schools in a single season.
Auburn isn't afraid of AQ competition like Bama is.
You're schedule doesn't equate to that of a team that is striving to prove they are the best.
Your team probably doesn't even know what jet lag is.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 3:29 am to meansonny
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Your team probably doesn't even know what jet lag is.
When was the last time you played a UGA, UF, or USCe after returning from Arizona the week before?
The NFL pundits all talk about that cross country effect. Both for the week of the game and for the week after. You make your opponents travel farther than you to every neutral site game, even.
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