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Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:24 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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. Though not the NU of the 90's it's a storied program (like Buckeyes) that USC has beaten in bowl games
Indeed. I've said this before though we've taken our lumps over the last 2 years during that time we are also 10 vs the UGA, UT, UF, CU, Nebraska, and 'Bama.
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USC is mid tier ....just like football
35-21.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:28 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Saban to really prove himself he must win a NC at a mid-tier team.
Though if I'm remembering the time between Stallings and Saban correctly, the big punchline was that Alabama had become a mid-tier team, and, to hear some (including some in the media) say it, would never be anything but a mid-tier team again.
This was 'proven' by the fact that, until Saban, only one person had the heft to win a NC at Alabama since 1979.
Fallacious logic on Spurrier's part is fallacious.
This post was edited on 5/2/12 at 12:29 am
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:30 am to cyde
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Fallacious logic on Spurrier's part is fallacious.
Funny how thats the only part people hang on to. The very next question in that interview was who was the best coach in the SEC and Spurrier answered Saban so I don't think he was taking a shot at Saban as much as people think he was.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:32 am to theGarnetWay
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The very next question in that interview was who was the best coach in the SEC and Spurrier answered Saban so I don't think he was taking a shot at Saban as much as people think he was.
This.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:32 am to cyde
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This was 'proven' by the fact that, until Saban, only one person had the heft to win a NC at Alabama since 1979.
Fallacious logic on Spurrier's part is fallacious.
I see your point but Spurrier did say he couldn't really ever outrecruit Bama. And again, I'm pretty sure he was half-joking.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:32 am to theGarnetWay
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Funny how thats the only part people hang on to. The very next question in that interview was who was the best coach in the SEC and Spurrier answered Saban so I don't think he was taking a shot at Saban as much as people think he was.
I never discounted the next question in the interview. I'm addressing the question as an individual entity, not as a preface to the following question, which it wasn't.
Don't be so defensive. The guy is a great coach and an above-average wit, he just said something mildly retarded is all.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:33 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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I'm pretty sure he was half-joking.
Oh, I agree. The best (banter-type) jokes, however, are ones which contain an incontrovertible element of truth, or which can't be easily disproven or dismissed.
Spurrier is a master at those. He just didn't live up to his usual standards with this one. Simply put, it was weak when compared to his gems of the past.
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:35 am to cyde
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He just didn't live up to his usual standards with this one.
I think he knows who the competition is and is hoping for a genie rub wish.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:36 am to cyde
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cyde
But the whole reason why it made news was because people were billing it as some Spurrier dig at Saban when it was just his opinion on certain challenges that coaches face.
And indeed Bama was going through a rough time before Saban. If I remember correctly Bama was turned down by several HC candidates and even in Saban's 1st year Bama was 6-7. But Spurrier's point was with all its history and resources Bama puts into having a successful football program that all you need is a decent coach, go through the steps of recruiting, and you'll be able to have X amount of decent success. Something that cannot be said for an SC or a Duke.
This post was edited on 5/2/12 at 12:38 am
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:37 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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I think he knows who the competition is and is hoping for a genie rub wish.
Possibly. Truth be told, I've missed Spurrier firing off his little cuties in press conferences. His swag just hasn't been the same until recently.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:39 am to cyde
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His swag just hasn't been the same until recently.
Yep....11 win top 10 finish with Latti coming back is probably a big part of that. If he can sneak by LSU you never can tell.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:40 am to cyde
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His swag just hasn't been the same until recently.
Another credit to Spurrier. He only talks shite when he knows he is in the position to do so. When he doesn't have that good of a team or knows we got our arse beat the only people he takes digs at are his own team. He knows better than to talk shite when he doesn't have something to back it up with. Luckily an SEC-E title and an 11 win season later and another season of high expectations he is starting to feel it again.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:40 am to theGarnetWay
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And indeed Bama was going through a rough time before Saban. If I remember correctly Bama was turned down by several HC candidates and even in Saban's 1st year Bama was 6-7. But Spurrier's point was with all its history and resources Bama puts into having a successful football program that all you need is a decent coach, go through the steps of recruiting, and you'll be able to have X amount of success. Something that cannot be said for an SC or a Duke.
This, while true, is somewhat inaccurate within the context of the quote.
All that you can count on from the "Bama" name, resources and devotion from the fanbase is an occasional nine to ten win season.
This is about the level which transcends that. Undefeated seasons and championships.
If it were the case that 'Bama had that kind of cachet, then the same could easily be said about Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, Southern Cal, Penn State, Tennessee or even...
wait for it...
:holds nose:
Notre Dame.
See what I'm saying?
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:41 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Plus Connor finished in same efficiency grouping as Wilson, Bray, Murray and AJ.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:41 am to theGarnetWay
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Another credit to Spurrier. He only talks shite when he knows he is in the position to do so. When he doesn't have that good of a team or knows we got our arse beat the only people he takes digs at are his own team. He knows better than to talk shite when he doesn't have something to back it up with. Luckily an SEC-E title and an 11 win season later and another season of high expectations he is starting to feel it again.
Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I like Spurrier. I even liked Spurrier when he was dominating.
I was glad to see he was coming back to CFB and was pumped that he was coming to the SEC. He's one of those institutions in our conference that I believe we can all hold up as an example of our superiority as a conference and be proud of.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:42 am to cyde
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If it were the case that 'Bama had that kind of cachet, then the same could easily be said about Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, Southern Cal, Penn State, Tennessee or even...
wait for it...
:holds nose:
Notre Dame.
Point taken and may the domers go 0-12 till the sun burns out.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:46 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Point taken and may the domers go 0-12 till the sun burns out.
I actually wish Alabama or LSU were playing them sometime soon, so we could all watch them get blown off the field and Brian Yelly become apoplectic.
Hell, imagine if SC got a chance to blow them out. Spurrier would be intolerable... in a great way.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:46 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Goodnight, y'all...and GO COCKS!! Sweet dreams everybody! 
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:47 am to cyde
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Notre Dame.
Difference though I feel like is that those poor fools in South Bend are truly trying to run on name-sake alone.
Bama realized its position and did something about. I have no idea what ND's weight-room / lounge area facilities are nice but it only takes a 2 second glance at the TV to tell that Bama plays in a far superior venue. I also feel like the state of AL has much better high school talent than IN so that gives Bama another natural advantage. BTW I have no idea what Indiana high school talent is like but seems like it would be worse than AL's right?
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