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re: Spring Practice: Answered Questions for your team

Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:27 am to
Posted by Dore5674
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Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:27 am to
No but 7-9 wins and challenging the upper crust of our schedule getting an upset over one of those teams that VU is not "supposed" to beat sounds about right.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:23 am to
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You expect college kickers to consistently make 50+ yarders like the one he missed during the LSU game?


No, but I do expect him to make the extra point and the 30 yarder after the Trey Williams 85 yard kickoff return that he missed during the LSU game.

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You guys give that kid way too much crap


He was 67 for 74 on PATs (that's a 20 yard FG in the middle fo the field for those who don't know). That's just over 90%. That's not even close to automatic as only one was blocked.

He was 7 for 8 on Field Goals between 20-29 yards. That's also pathetic. A decent FG kicker should be automatic within 30 yards.

He was 1 for 6 on Field Goals between 30-39 yards. That's PUTRID. A decent FG kicker should be at 80% or better from that distance.

He was 1 for 3 on Field Goals between 40-49 yards. Also terrible. A decent FG kicker should be 50% or better from that distance.

He was 3 for 4 on Field Goals of 50 yards or more. That's mind-boggling considering how horrible he is at shorter distances.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 8:28 am
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81264 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:26 am to
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Very disappointed in our run game or lack there of. I expect all of Bama's opponents to stack the LOS and force AJ to beat them with his arm. I'm not in panic mode, but i hope our offensive line gels over summer workouts. I'm not too worried about our defense.



no worries. i saw them call a hold in that A game. We know that won't happen during the season.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80810 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:51 am to
Here are the kicks Bertolet missed:

Florida - None

SMU - 23 yard FG, PAT blocked (4 points lost)

South Carolina State - None

Arkansas - 39 yard FG, 36 yard FG (6 points lost)

Ole Miss - PAT Missed (1 point lost)

Louisiana Tech - PAT Missed (1 point lost)

LSU - PAT Missed, 52 yard FG, 33 yard FG (7 points lost - Had he made the 33 yarder and the PAT, we could have tied it going for 2 after the Malena TD)

Auburn - 48 yard FG Missed (3 points lost)

Mississippi State - 33 yard FG Missed, 43 yard FG Missed (6 points lost)

Alabama - PAT Missed, 37 yard FG Missed (4 points lost, 5 if you remember that we had to go for 2 after the Kennedy TD)

Sam Houston State - PAT Missed (1 point lost)

Missouri - No kicks missed

Oklahoma - PAT missed (1 point lost)
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81264 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 9:13 am to
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LSU - PAT Missed, 52 yard FG, 33 yard FG (7 points lost - Had he made the 33 yarder and the PAT, we could have tied it going for 2 after the Malena TD)


a TD you scored with 1:17 left because of soft prevent defense with you down 12 points with 3:12 left in the game. Revisionist history.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85897 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 9:14 am to
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a TD you scored with 1:17 left because of soft prevent defense with you down 12 points with 3:12 left in the game. Revisionist history.


Exactly. After the first quarter that game was never in doubt.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80810 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 9:18 am to
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a TD you scored with 1:17 left because of soft prevent defense with you down 12 points with 3:12 left in the game


Bertolet's 1st miss: (PAT) 6-0 A&M (1st quarter)
Bertolet's 2nd miss: (52 yarder) 14-12 LSU (3rd quarter)
Bertolet's 3rd miss: (33 yarder) 17-12 LSU (4th quarter)

Let's assume that he wasn't going to make the 52-yarder (His ONLY miss that season from greater than 50 yards BTW). The score would still be 17-16 LSU if he just made the PAT and the 33-yarder. Assume Jeremy Hill still makes that TD, it's now 24-16 LSU and A&M has the ball with 3 minutes left.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 9:21 am
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81264 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 9:22 am to
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Bertolet's 1st miss: (PAT) 6-0 A&M
Bertolet's 2nd miss: (52 yarder) 14-12 LSU
Bertolet's 3rd miss: (33 yarder) 17-12 LSU

Let's assume that he wasn't going to make the 52-yarder (His ONLY miss that season from greater than 50 yards BTW). The score would still be 17-16 A&M if he just made the PAT and the 33-yarder.


assume he makes every kick known to man. You still have to go 80 yards in 3 minutes to score your 2nd TD of the game.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80810 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 9:26 am to
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assume he makes every kick known to man. You still have to go 80 yards in 3 minutes to score your 2nd TD of the game.


Actually, math major, if he made all three kicks, the score is now 19-17 A&M with 3 minutes to go.

When last I checked, 12+7 = 19
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 9:28 am
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81264 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 9:37 am to
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Actually, math major, if he made all three kicks, the score is now 19-17 A&M with 3 minutes to go.

When last I checked, 12+7 = 19


LSU isn't allowed to score 47 yard TDs if he makes all of his kicks? It was 24-12 with 3:12 left when hill scored.

24-19=5 math major. You needed to drive 80 yards to win even in perfect a&m fantasy land.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 9:40 am
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80810 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:02 am to
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It was 24-12 with 3:12 left when hill scored.


All of Bertolet's misses came before the Jeremy Hill touchdown. What is unclear about this?

24-19 = 5. 1+3+3 (1 PAT, 2 field goals missed) = 7.

Assuming Hill still scores the TD (and the defense isn't emotionally spent after getting fricked over by their kicker 3 times), it's 24-19 with over 3 minutes left.

3 minutes is a LOT of time compared to what was left at the end of the game.

Let's look at it another way:

If Bertolet doesn't miss the PAT and FG during the Alabama game, not only is Alabama now down 33-17 after the Kennedy touchdown, but A&M isn't going for 2 because they don't trust their kicker.

Now, at this point, it's 34-17 A&M with Alabama needing 3 scores to tie (3 touchdowns to win)
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 10:07 am
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
NOLA
Member since Dec 2011
4882 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:31 am to
I never said he was a good kicker because he isn't, but saying he cost you a chance at the national title is exaggeration at best.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80810 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:34 am to
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but saying he cost you a chance at the national title is exaggeration at best.


I never said he did...however, if he doesn't get his shite together, he could cost us 1-3 games this year.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81264 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:14 pm to
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3 minutes is a LOT of time compared to what was left at the end of the game.

Let's look at it another way:

If Bertolet doesn't miss the PAT and FG during the Alabama game, not only is Alabama now down 33-17 after the Kennedy touchdown, but A&M isn't going for 2 because they don't trust their kicker.

Now, at this point, it's 34-17 A&M with Alabama needing 3 scores to tie (3 touchdowns to win)


thats all fine but yall are just looking to blame away every little thing to say why you lost games. If Evans wasn't afraid of going over the middle, if the other WR didn't run the wrong route ( i think Johnny read the coverage wrong but tomatoes tomahtoes), if the kicker did this or that.
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