re: Sports Illustrated Article on Ole Miss SIAP

Haven't you guys already admitted to 6 or 7 level 1 violations under the football umbrella alone. You really think your not going to get anything but self imposed penalties?

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Miller could have withheld the evidence as a means to obtaining hush money? He clearly has a history of having his hand out. He could have gone from "all talk" to "all info" over time.

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yeah..he could have. He could also have video proof of Freeze giving him the Declaration of Independence if we're just throwing speculation around.

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Makes one wonder why the text messages about Momma's power bill & rent payments were withheld until draft night?

I mean that was old stuff and someone obviously held that back and now the NCAA and OM are having to investigate it after the fact. Strange

FWIW, I posted when the first letter came out how I no longer enjoyed seeing teams get hammered after what I experienced as a Bama fan. It is little fun going into multiple seasons with no hope of being competitive. I do not take joy in the Ole Miss problems.

That said, I remember hearing many Alabama fans, myself included, actually believing there was no way our programs allegations were true, and then when some were proven we also thought, "well, we will get some penalties but nothing too bad." Reality is not always pleasant.

If I were an Ole Miss fan what would concern me: (in no particular order)
1. Multiple violations
2. Multiple sports involved
3. Ath. Dept officials implicated
4. Upset family member who could possibly be holding more evidence...maybe not...but are you 100% certain?
5. The national image of a weak NCAA or bungling NCAA, that is just trying to increase profits and has no real desire for academic integrity
6. Alleged academic misconduct
7. The perception that Auburn bluffed the NCAA in the Cam ordeal with threats of lawsuits. (really not a poke at Auburn there...only talking about the perception)
8. The NCAA is in need a watershed moment to reclaim some national clout. The SEC, with our success, is viewed as a renegade conference. Ole Miss could be made an example out of. Because if Ole Miss skates by the NCAA becomes further irrelevant and then where does it stop? Its almost like the NCAA has slowly allowed themselves to be backed into a corner by multiple schools. And just when they are ready to fight back they look up and only Ole Miss is left standing in front of them.


TLDR Version: Ole Miss is going to be a watershed moment for the NCAA.


And as I posted several weeks ago, I take no pleasure in this view. Having Ole Miss have a resurgence has made the season more exciting for me...except for 1 week each of the past 2 seasons.

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Haven't you guys already admitted to 6 or 7 level 1 violations under the football umbrella alone.

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We admitted to the allegations that the NCAA is considering to be Level 1. We're currently appealing that some of them should be lowered to a level 2.

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You really think your not going to get anything but self imposed penalties?

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Three independent lawyers were cited in that article as saying they agreed with what we self-imposed and commended us for it.


but to answer your question....Most Ole Miss fans believe that the NCAA will rule along the lines of what we're self-imposing.


What I figure the NCAA will rule based on what is currently out there and that a few level 1's will be lowered to level 2's...

They'll extend Kiffin's suspension from just recruiting-related to a few games and dock us more scholarships than we offered....maybe a 4th year to the 3 years probation that we offered.



Hell...1 of the level 1's is regarding a booster taking a recruit to campus for a visit. Problem with that violation is the booster took the same recruit to a few other schools and had a prior relationship to the recruit. The guy is known in Memphis for helping take underprivileged kids to visits that they wouldn't be able to afford. The recruit wasn't even considering Ole Miss until we hired Freeze because he was being recruited to Arkansas State. Also the booster is a baseball booster and doesn't give anything to football.


There are other violations in the NOA that can be disputed. Tunsil sat for 7 games over the loaner car situation so that should be something the NCAA doesn't punish any further. A player got evicted from his apartment and slept on the couch of a teammate's girlfriend....We already enforced the punishment of him paying that person a comparable rent.


Some of the things listed in the NOA have already been self-imposed.

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But they penalized us like he did.

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The NCAA never penalized you. You penalized yourself.

I have a hard time believing that OM offering 11 scholarship reductions, 3 yrs probation, and limiting Maurice Harris and Kiffin's recruiting is going to be enough to satisfy the NCAA when 8 Level I infractions including academic fraud are laying on the table. IDK, maybe OM has some really good lawyers that can plead down some of those Level I's?

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It's a good summary of what all of us already know.

He just informed the whole country. That is not a good thing for the Webels.

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This is correct. The only thing this article can do is keep fanning the flame and put more outside pressure on the NCAA.


Sucks for Ole Miss...no doubt.

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I thought the NOA just had the previous violations such as the ACT accusations and the Tunsil investigation was gonna be separate from it??

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I'm not sure why you thought that. There's quite a bit in the NOA regarding Tunsil.

The Draft night ordeal is what they decided to continue investigating.

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He didn't sit out for any of this

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Are you denying the fact that Tunsil sat the first 7 games of the 2015 season because of the loaner car investigation by the NCAA?

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So the NCAA is going to hammer is without undeniable proof? Seems to me they would like to not be sued. Oh but you're one of those that doesn't think the NCAA can't be sued over their punishment and investigation process.

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I'm not getting into the pissing match going on right now, but this line of thinking is simply wrong.

Todd McNair isn't the first person to sue them. They got sued (and settled out of court) for things they did in the Albert Means/Alabama fiasco too.

They quite simply do what they want and don't DGAF about what may happen later.