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re: Spinoff Thread: Why not UAB?

Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3349 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:33 pm to
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What do you guys think of potentially adding UAB?


Why stop there, Troy and South Alabama would be nice pick-ups as well.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:34 pm to
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Im sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the only people I've noticed assocaiting UAB's medical school with UA are UA affiliated.

Nationally UAB is viewed as independent of UA and UAH, imo
quote:

Do you want to try and disassociate the law school while you're at it?

Here's a link for your trouble.

LINK


Thank you CapstoneGrad
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22091 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

UAB is a top tier academic school


Other than the Med school, it's a glorified Community College.



YOU ARE WRONG!!

You are as big of a moron as the person who started this thread. Everything you posted is idiotic and nonsense. Maybe something you wish . . . but is not based in fact.

With a degree from both Alabama and UAB, I can tell you all three top Universities in this state are top tier. Heck, I'd be proud if I had a degree from Auburn - a very fine institution.

Geez dude.
Posted by orange901
Bluff City
Member since Nov 2012
121 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:37 pm to
Who is this? Bob Stoops?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72179 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

YOU ARE WRONG!!

You are as big of a moron as the person who started this thread. Everything you posted is idiotic and nonsense. Maybe something you wish . . . but is not based in fact.

With a degree from both Alabama and UAB, I can tell you all three top Universities in this state are top tier. Heck, I'd be proud if I had a degree from Auburn - a very fine institution.

Geez dude.



A degree is a piece of paper, unless it is from a Ivy League school, Michigan, Stanford, ect. Those open a lot more doors. That being said, UAB is a commuter school. And from the outside looking in a degree from UA or AU does carry more weight than UAB. But then again, it does depend on your major and what you do with said degree.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:44 pm to
For the OP: Because 90% of SEC fans don't care about the only sport UAB is good at. Remove Kentucky, and it's more like 97%.

I honestly have nothing against UAB, but they clearly don't belong. Football, baby. Come up with a good football team and we'll talk.

Posted by GumBro Jackson
Raleigh
Member since Mar 2011
3114 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:48 pm to
There are literally twenty or thirty other schools that the SEC would consider before UAB. It isn't like the conference is desperate and needs to expand. If the SEC can't get two schools out of the top 5-10 candidates it will stay put.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:03 pm to
They aren't even good at basketball.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22091 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

A degree is a piece of paper, unless it is from a Ivy League school, Michigan, Stanford, ect. Those open a lot more doors. That being said, UAB is a commuter school. And from the outside looking in a degree from UA or AU does carry more weight than UAB. But then again, it does depend on your major and what you do with said degree.


You can say that about any college. It is not a commuter school. Have you been there lately?
Posted by DisplacedKentuckian
Member since Jan 2013
428 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:35 pm to
I'd also like to nominate Eastern Kentucky University to the SEC while we're at it. On the grounds that the Six Million Dollar Man went there. That is all.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:37 pm to
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No wonder Paul Bryant, Jr. put the kabosh on giving UAB athletics any more $$$. shite, they can't even afford to maintain what they have now.


Not very accurate. UAB athletics could likely be decent and self-supporting if UAT did not purposely thwart them and try to keep them down.

Jimbo Fisher had agreed to coach UAB before FSU and it was for less money than they were paying Watson Brown, the current/former coach. However, Bryant Jr did not want to have to compete with UAB.

Bama is the reason UAB sucks. Plain and simple.

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CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer
'Little Bear' Bryant crosses line again in denying UAB
Dec. 26, 2006
0 | Comments A ghost from the grave is running the Alabama football program ... and running the program at UAB into the dirt.

Oh, wait. That's no ghoul. It's not Bear Bryant, who died in 1983.

It's his son, Paul Bryant Jr.



Neil Callaway wasn't exactly UAB's top choice. (Getty Images)
Little Bear wouldn't return messages from CBS SportsLine.com, so this will just have to be said without a rebuttal: Paul Bryant Jr., with a murky background and clear conflict of interest, has no business exerting influence over the football program at UAB.

We'll get to Little Bear's background in a minute, but for now, understand something. The UAB football program just made the most dreadful hire of the offseason, hiring someone with questionable experience and character. His name is Neil Callaway, the offensive coordinator at Georgia, which you might have noticed was horrible this season on offense. The last thing Callaway did of note was plead guilty to DUI charges in 2003.

This is the new UAB coach. He's a lousy choice. Which is apparently what Little Bear wanted.

Little Bear sits on the University of Alabama Board of Trustees. From there, he wields all sorts of authority over Alabama and its state step-sister, UAB. Little Bear, who once gave $10 million to the Crimson Tide athletics department, is close friends with Alabama AD Mal Moore, who keeps his job despite a proven inability to pick a quality football coach.

What happens to Alabama football, however, is not our concern. Bear Bryant Sr. built the Crimson Tide into the South's most fearsome franchise, and if his boy tears it all the way down, well, there is symmetry in that.

What has happened this month to UAB, however, is an outrage. Essentially, Little Bear's Board of Trustees blocked UAB from hiring the football coach it wanted. Twice. And the second time, Little Bear's Board stopped UAB from hiring the coach it wanted because, presumably, the coach UAB wanted -- Jimbo Fisher -- might also be wanted by Alabama.

Ugly, but that's the deal, based on SportsLine.com conversations with sources close to the situation.

After being blocked by the Board of Trustees in its quest to promote assistant coach Pat Sullivan, who became head coach at Samford, UAB turned to LSU offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher. UAB and Fisher agreed on basic contractual terms, with half of Fisher's annual UAB salary -- ballpark: $600,000 -- to be subsidized by private boosters.

UAB was going to get the coach it wanted, a coach whose rumored arrival already was waking up the comatose UAB football program -- yet would have been on the hook for less salary than ex-coach Watson Brown, who made $375,000. It was perfect.

Little Bear's Board of Trustees said no. You want to know why? So do I, but Little Bear wouldn't return my messages.
So here's the theory I'm working on, a theory based on conversations with multiple sources with a vested interest in UAB football:
This post was edited on 5/8/13 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:42 pm to
And part 2 from CBS....

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Little Bear's board told UAB it would not approve the hiring of Jimbo Fisher.

What kind of man is capable of such a plot? Not sure. But here's the kind of man Little Bear is:

He made a fortune from dog tracks, including the notorious track at Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, which closed in 1995 after reports of monstrous dog abuse. He's a catfish kingpin whose farm processes 700,000 pounds per week. He's a Civil War buff who has been a ranking member of the controversial Sons of Confederate Veterans, which "is dedicated to the promotion of traditional Southern ideals ... to hold in perpetual remembrance all that was great and good."

Yeesh.

In 1989 Bryant was quoted in Esquire as describing the clientele at his Alabama dog track as "a low-class, low-income crowd ... generally your lower class of blacks, your welfare blacks, you want 'em to have enough room to get in and out, but at the same time you want to get as many in as possible."

In 2000 the Legislative Black Caucus seized on those comments to try to block his appointment to the Board of Trustees. Little Bear said Esquire invented the quotes. Little Bear got his way -- he got onto the Board of Trustees.

UAB has the football coach to show for it.
Posted by ErnestTBassmaster
Bird Whistle, Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
2583 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Alabama AD Mal Moore, who keeps his job despite a proven inability to pick a quality football coach.


Kills the credibility of the author, in retrospect.
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
6857 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:53 pm to
UAB? The SEC has standards, granted not a stuffy and snobby as the Big 10 or Pac12 but standards nonetheless. Why don't we just add Jackson State, Tuskegee, Arkansas Tech or Manatee Community College while we're at it.
This post was edited on 5/8/13 at 3:54 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72179 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:55 pm to
And like a fly on shite...
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 4:08 pm to
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And like a fly on shite...

They know how to swarm don't they?



Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72179 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 4:12 pm to
If anyone knew a smidgen about the UA BOT they would quit suggesting that they are "preventing" UAB football from having success. Until an athletic program shows it can win, they're are not going to give a dime they can't come up with on their own. It is why baseball has floundered from one of the best in the SEC to what it is now. And it is why softball and gymnastics have gotten help. Because they've found a way to put a successful product on the field.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 4:12 pm to
UAB and Tulane should make a push to join the Big 12 with SMU and Houston. Bring Memphis and Tulsa to get to 16.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 4:14 pm to
Seriously? No
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