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re: Spin off: The role of academics in recruiting

Posted on 8/6/16 at 7:07 am to
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/6/16 at 7:07 am to
First you need to separate the four and five star recruits from the others. There is going to be a lower percentage among them.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/6/16 at 7:49 am to
Lets be honest most 4 and 5 star athletes have no business in college and they are there because of their athletic ability. For the majority the answer is no ,but I am sure a handful consider the academic reputation of a school first.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:05 am to
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or their families consider a school's academic reputation when choosing where to go?


I think it's more important for the parents.The academics are sold to them more than the recruits.

I was recruited by Georgia Tech and it was a big pitch for them as well their business network in Atlanta.
Posted by UFFan
Planet earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Aug 2016
1946 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:11 am to
Well, in theory that's true. But I'm sure many of the players in the Ivy League are there on what's officially "financial need" or "academic" scholarships.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11178 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:13 am to
RE Ivy League, sister played at an an Ivy and while you have to meet minimum standards if the coach wants you it's not like you have to really get accepted like a normal student.

Put it this way, she didn't get accepted at any Ivy that didn't want her to play sports.

This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 10:51 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:20 am to
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But I'm sure many of the players in the Ivy League are there on what's officially "financial need" or "academic" scholarships.



Most Ivies provide basically a free ride if your family is under a certain income threshold.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:21 am to
I don't have any idea how much it factors for recruits. I would guess that there is much more lip service to it than actual consideration.

We live in a world where everything is so simplified. A recruit is either a thug or a role model, a school is either a football factory or an upstanding academic institution. The truth is almost always in between.
Posted by Dogfish
Member since Nov 2015
1248 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 8:40 am to
In the end there are very few academically gifted 4 and 5 star prospects. Not saying they're dumb, just of normal intelligence. For the gifted there are only a handful of schools that offer both top tier academics and sports such as Stanford, Notre Dame & Michigan (Vandy misses on athelectis as do Northwestern, Duke and so on).

I think it plays a small role at best for the rest. I'd pick Texas over Oklahoma as an example for academics. But if Oklahoma was a better football opportunity screw it Boomer Sooner
This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 8:46 am
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3172 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 10:15 am to
Let's see..........

You have to have at least a 23 on the ACT exam to get into most SEC schools as a regular student. You only need a 17 to get in as a Football/Basketball player. I would guess that 80-90% of football/basketball players that get SEC football/basketball scholarships have ACT scores less than 23.

The overwhelming majority of football/basketball players have an academic curriculum, once they get into school, that is beyond ridiculous and easy. 60%+ of these players read and write at a 6 grade level.

Maybe, just maybe, 2% of recruits (and their parents) give a damn about academics and the academic reputation of a school. The other 98% only care about all the benefits they receive for going to a SEC school and the possibility of playing professionally.

Face it, SEC Football is minor league football, hosted at university campuses, so that fans of these schools will pay ridiculous amounts of money to support these minor league developmental programs.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 11:45 am to
What Harvard is like today is irrelevant. At some point in history people started going to football factories at Midwestern universities over Harvard because a Harvard degree doesn't mean that much to a football player. And then they started going to places like Alabama and Florida State instead of elite public universities like Illinois and Minnesota because football means more to them than the name on the diploma. It means very little to 99% of players.
This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 11:48 am
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15799 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 11:52 am to
For many, it comes down to how to keep them eligible.

For a few, there may be a particular degree or connection that would be of interest.

I forgot which kid UGA got a couple of years ago, but it came down to UGA had a very specific academic program that he was completely interested in studying.
Posted by GoShox
Clemson, SC
Member since Apr 2015
83 posts
Posted on 8/6/16 at 11:55 am to
I guess to a certain few students and from a certain few schools.

Vanderbilt
Duke
Stanford
UNC (they found a way around the curriculum, it seems)
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