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re: So let's break down this new transfer rule thingy ...

Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:09 am to
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:09 am to
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All these restrictions are in place to protect a product for us as consumers that places our needs above the players.


The product is what gets these players million dollar coaching and exposure. Probably shouldn't ruin it for both our sakes.

Might as well just call it free agency, because it's free. This opens up the game to a whole new level of dirty recruiting, among many other negatives.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 4:21 am
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18555 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:32 am to
Well, they would only have like a week to learn the playbook lol
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 5:01 am to
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The product is what gets these players million dollar coaching and exposure.


The players get no payment for the increased exposure and million dollar coaches are paid more for their recruiting ability than their skills development. Colleges should be focused on getting these kids jobs at the end of the day. Yes some a NFL prospects and deserve that avenue. Others aren't.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 5:44 am to
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The players get no payment for the increased exposure and million dollar coaches


They get paid cash in semester stipends, obviously a free education and meals, and the coaching isn't that far from that in the NFL. It isn't uncommon for a big program's staff have multiple former NFL coaches.

It's the NFL that says they won't take them until 3 years after high school, not the NCAA saying they can't go to the league. They are free to make a living doing what they love in Canadian or arena league instead. It's the school affiliation that brings the crowds, and the NCAA is opening a can of worms for themselves by starting to pay college football players more than the same stipend other sports receive.

At the end of the day these are kids playing because they love football right? What are track athletes, wrestlers, baseball players playing for? And are they worked less?
When will Texas high school players start asking for a cut of the profits the big schools make on football? At 16 they could have an after school job instead of "working for free" while the school makes bank.

Also how many colleges do you think can afford to actually pay their players actual salaries. The vast majority of D1 athletic departments are in the red and take money from the state, and football revenue provides the funds that allow the other students to be able to play their sports.

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Colleges should be focused on getting these kids jobs at the end of the day


They are going to school aren't they?

This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 6:07 am
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:36 am to
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As much as I hate it, the players should have the freedom to go wherever they are acedimically eligible and a team accepts them. All these restrictions are in place to protect a product for us as consumers that places our needs above the players.


Imagine investing three years in a player's academics and athletic development and then having them poached via a back door. There are unscrupulous actors out there not the least of which are some boosters and agents.

This is opening-up Pandora's proverbial box to all sorts of issues.
Posted by IStillMissDanny
S TX
Member since Aug 2016
2151 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:58 am to
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Imagine investing three years in a player's academics and athletic development and then having them poached via a back door. There are unscrupulous actors out there not the least of which are some boosters and agents.

This is opening-up Pandora's proverbial box to all sorts of issues.



I hate it as well, but the grad transfer rules already cracked that box open.
When they decided to make the change allowing athletes to pursue degrees that are offered by their original school, they effectively made it free-agency for grad transfers.
I don't believe a school has any say in where a grad transfer decides to go, either.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:25 am to
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I don't believe a school has any say in where a grad transfer decides to go, either.


Pretty sure they do.

David Williams transferred to UConn ... then he changed his mind and transferred to Arkansas. Arkansas has to ask permission from mUSChamp ... which he gladly gave. There was a lot of talk about that a few weeks ago.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42458 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:27 am to
Can schools still block transfers.
I would imagine SEC schools would block this from happening to other SEC schools.

Bama has nothing to worry about, most wouldn't qualify in good academic standing anyway.
Posted by Salt Lick
Bath County
Member since Aug 2016
1646 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:33 am to
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and 35 underclassmen decide to transfer because they're not going to go bowling ... what happens to Ole Miss? Suddenly they find themselves with, let's say, 25 scholarship players remaining on their roster after graduation and normal attrition ... how is that ground ever made-up? 


Every player on the rister is free to transfer at any moment. Right now they would sit out a year. So the situation currently already exist. Shea Patterson is staying like many other players.

The only difference is that Ole Miss shite the bed and the ncaa is forcing every ole miss player to lay in it.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16963 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:39 am to
If they really are concerned with the "student" athletes then they should have a minimum of a 3.0 to transfer with a certain number of credits.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37612 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:54 am to
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If they really are concerned with the "student" athletes then they should have a minimum of a 3.0 to transfer with a certain number of credits.


Totally agree. 100%

But lawyers would strike that down in a hurry.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18211 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:55 am to
LSU and Florida can finally audition QB's until they find one that moves the needle?
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